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Singer’s Daughter

#81
Each band member gets an equal cut. You, yes you, are the one causing trouble by asking this question.
The right attitude is to pay her an equal share and have her learn more songs. She is a perfect person to fill in if her dad get sick and can’t do the gig. Get her to learn more and more
 
#83
LuckyScott said:
Each band member gets an equal cut. You, yes you, are the one causing trouble by asking this question.
The right attitude is to pay her an equal share and have her learn more songs. She is a perfect person to fill in if her dad get sick and can’t do the gig. Get her to learn more and more
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I am not causing any trouble there Mr. Scott, just merely asking for advice from seasoned musicians.

This is not my first line of work, and what I do is scheduled peace work for income.

There is no trouble, as ALL band members are questing and trying to figure things out.

Pop included.
 
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Clark Westfield said:
I am not causing any trouble there Mr. Scott, just merely asking for advice from seasoned musicians.

This is not my first line of work, and what I do is scheduled peace work for income.

There is no trouble, as ALL band members are questing and trying to figure things out.

Pop included.
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This is positive if the Dad is discussing her rate too.
Hopefully you can all speak freely.

Imv, 6 songs is a part time member and you can operate without her. So, if she truly is an assett and raises the ability and appeal of the band dramatically, then at least until you can justify asking for more at a later point...if the market will stand it.
However, 'more' is not necessarily 'more' in the eyes of the booker so you all need to be cool you are going to be working for less for now even if you agree 'pro rata'

Personally, I think quality players cost and I do try and get top $...but there are some places we can't play because of that.

She sounds young and inexperienced musically...? so maybe give here 50$ and tips to work her in..and see how it goes whilst adding more numbers for equal pay.
If she is the real deal, she'll probably use you guys for experience and go out on her own and call the shots. She'll start that by being the featured billing in your band...lol

I can't answer as to her worth to the band as not seen or heard her..you have to come to that conclusion.
 
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#88
What is her commitment level? Is this just a fun diversion for a couple of months or something she wants to invest time and effort in for the long haul?

Also, her availability. You are potentially adding one more variable in booking rehearsal and gigs.

I wouldn't talk $ until I knew more on her end. If this is basically a fun lark for her, maybe she can do a gig here and there, then, agree on pay as a gun for hire that's agreeable to all concerned.
 
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LuckyScott said:
Each band member gets an equal cut. You, yes you, are the one causing trouble by asking this question.
The right attitude is to pay her an equal share and have her learn more songs. She is a perfect person to fill in if her dad get sick and can’t do the gig. Get her to learn more and more
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I'm inclined to agree. If she's a sub, partial collaborator, hired gun, etc I'd feel differently. The way the original post is worded, she's joining the band. I've always just divvied it up per bandmate. If there was a person that was sitting in, they'd have a rate, and we'd pay that. My best friend joined my band (well he's on trial period) playing keys. We don't use keys on every song. If all works out though he's a bandmember and to me that's an equal share. He's lugging his crap to the gigs. He's staying to see the other bands.
 
#91
I'm having a hard time agreeing with many of the posts here.

Basically - here is an opportunity for a band to on-board a young, reportedly very talented young woman, in what is THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE BAND. If she's really that good, she could very well be the whole key to more and better gigs. She is your meal ticket. If I were in the position of bassist in that band, I'd be working to get her to sing an increasing share of the songs and working to tailor the setlist to fit her talents and preferred songs. Of course, there are the dad/daughter issues that may come up - but also maybe not. Most dads are going to work to elevate their kid - and if she's that good, well, it's a win. Different dynamic than the husband/wife thing that so often blows up. It's worth a shot. Then, I'd lay back and groove my way into more gigs in better rooms and contemplate breaking into the local festival circuit. Of course, I say this as a resident of a fairly rural/tourism-based area that struggles to produce an adequate number of local musicians in general. Maybe in larger markets, talented young female singers are clamoring to play in cover bands, I don't know. That's not the norm here....
 
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#92
We don't know how 'good' transfers to being a showstopping singer.
It could be either way so will be interesting to see how this pans out.

I'd agree, if she is truly excrptional, the trick is holding onto her which will likely be around 6 months whilst she gets experience and someone else offers her a gig current band can't get to.
 
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pepj said:
We don't know how 'good' transfers to being a showstopping singer.
It could be either way so will be interesting to see how this pans out.

I'd agree, if she is truly excrptional, the trick is holding onto her which will likely be around 6 months whilst she gets experience and someone else offers her a gig current band can't get to.
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agreed - OP stated that they were blown away by her singing. I took that as - she's a showstopper.
 
#94
pcake said:
if she will have to spend the same amount of time at the bar as the other players, i'd say per her a full cut. if she goes home after 4 songs, that's rougher to figure. especially since you don't want a bad situation with her father.

when i've done a variety of types of jobs, i expect to be paid for my time that i can't spend painting, relaxing or hanging out regardless of whether i'm actively working or simply have to be where the job requires. there's also rehearsal time and drive time to be considered.
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Yep. You're paying me to block out the time on my calendar, excluding other activities including but not exclusively getting paid for other gigs.

That and schlepping/setting-up/tearing-down gear.
 
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