Singer’s Daughter

[Clark Westfield]

So the singer’s daughter came to a rehearsal a few times and blew us away with her singing ability.

Her dad sings for us and does all of the set list.

We added some songs for Mary and she is committing to joining the band.

5-6 songs in total-36 song set list.

Now when it comes to pay, is she entitled to dividing the purse equally.

I’m playing every song, do I need to give her a piece of my take for only 5-6 songs?

 

[lordradish]

Not unless she's up there the entire time, singing backing vox.

Situations like this can go south pretty quickly, be careful.

 

[Pacman]

If you're expected to be there for the entire time, you're entitled to a full cut. It's up to the band to make sure the workload gets split evenly, if even money sticks in someone's craw.

 

[Michedelic]

Only if she’s singing back ups/harmonies on the tunes where she’s not the lead. And I’d bet that daddy’s little girl will not be dressing for for eye candy duty.

 

[KenD]

If she is as good a singer as you say, and if she has good stage presence, you would want to work her into more of your playlist over time, right?

 

[fdeck]

Only if she schleps gear.

Nobody pays me less because I play fewer notes, or bring less gear. This is a paradox of bands.

 

[bassicmike]

Pay the young lady.

If it's an issue, you should probably be in a different band

 

[Bunk McNulty]

Only if she schleps gear.

Nobody pays me less because I play fewer notes, or bring less gear. This is a paradox of bands.

LOL! There are a few songs in my repertoire where I wish I got paid by the note!

 

[Oddly]

Only if she’s singing back ups/harmonies on the tunes where she’s not the lead. And I’d bet that daddy’s little girl will not be dressing for for eye candy duty.

Not taking that bet...haven't you watched any of them shows where parents force their kids into beauty pageants, cheerleading, etc. ?

 

[friskinator]

How old is she? Based on the average age of members here, she could be in her 30s/40s.

 

[pepj]

Tread carefully.
You've already introduced another split in the fee.
If her father hasn't seen the issue, then he ain't fixing it and before you know it, she is on equal share.
Ideally, this should have been put to the band before she even sang at rehearsal.

What was it about nepotism in bands here on TB..?

 

[red_rhino]

If you're expected to be there for the entire time, you're entitled to a full cut. It's up to the band to make sure the workload gets split evenly, if even money sticks in someone's craw.

This! Don't make her a second class band member. If she's that good, you're going to want to develop her ability and she will become a key part of your show. Treat her like a full member. I've been in bands that attempted pay based on level-of-effort or involvement. It never goes well.

 

[red_rhino]

Is it just me, or is anyone else reminded of the Arrested Development episode where Michael and Maeby sing Afternoon Delight?

 

[dbsfgyd1]

So the singer’s daughter came to a rehearsal a few times and blew us away with her singing ability.

Her dad sings for us and does all of the set list.

We added some songs for Mary and she is committing to joining the band.

5-6 songs in total-36 song set list.

Now when it comes to pay, is she entitled to dividing the purse equally.

I’m playing every song, do I need to give her a piece of my take for only 5-6 songs?

Featured Artist? Seriously I hear you. I’m not so sure that would sit with me either. Now, a couple of things might alter my opinion.

One, she brings in more business. like bigger audiences, more gigs or allows for increases of what the band can charge which ups your pay. Secondly, she can vastly expand your song list not only the number of songs but the type of genres covered.

To your point 5-6 songs is not enough to merit a full share. However. If there is room for expansion of her role in the band I’d be on board with a full share for the time being. There should be some harmony parts she could cover as well.

IMO, having a really good female singer that presents well and is a good egg is a huge plus for a band and is well worth the investment.

 

[Zooberwerx]

Is she capable of learning / performing ~20 leads and backing vox on the balance OR is she a glorified karaoke artist? I’ve run into the latter a few times and it never bodes well. The money is almost secondary.

Riis

 

[KenD]

IMO, having a really good female singer that presents well and is a good egg is a huge plus for a band and is well worth the investment.

This ^.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Is she a draw for the band? In other words, do people come to hear her sing?
If she is a draw, she may be entitled to more. It is like the quaterback gets paid $3,000,000 because he draws people in to pay to watch him. Nobody cares about a line man, so he gets a lot less.
Given this, we bass players should be thankful we get a full cut.

 

[silky smoove]

It’s not the amount of time on stage performing, it’s the total time commitment to do the gig. One of my gigs is with an events band. We have a full horn section on most gigs, and a dance team on really big gigs. Neither of those sections perform on every tune in the set, but they all get full pay. They had to block out X-number of hours on their calendar to perform. If this person has to show up at the same time as everyone else and doesn’t leave until everyone else, then they’re entitled to an equal share. If their time commitment is less then the split can be adjusted down, but even then it shouldn’t be a 1:1 reduction as the initial commitment precludes them from doing something else with their time, which has its own value.

 

[31HZ]

Figure this out now (like adults ) so that there are no misunderstandings going forward.

I'd give her a full cut if she's attending rehearsals and gigs.

 

[Clark Westfield]

Thanks for all the replies everyone.

Will certainly consider your thoughts.