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Sire Bass Club!

What color/wood combination do you own?

  • Bright Metallic Red/ Ash

    Votes: 17 1.6%

  • Bright Metallic Red/ Alder

    Votes: 33 3.2%

  • Natural/ Ash

    Votes: 173 16.7%

  • Sunburst/ Ash

    Votes: 104 10.0%

  • Sunburst/ Alder

    Votes: 165 15.9%

  • White/ Ash

    Votes: 86 8.3%

  • White/ Alder

    Votes: 122 11.7%

  • Black/ Alder

    Votes: 104 10.0%

  • M3

    Votes: 28 2.7%

  • M7

    Votes: 85 8.2%

  • I'm a heretic - I don't own one yet, but I'll see the light soon enough!

    Votes: 243 23.4%
  • Total voters
    1,039
  • Poll closed .
#11,641
orik said:
If you want a Motown sound I believe that would be difficult for the P7 even though you could certainly achieve something close enough. It has a J neck after all. Having a P neck pickup it certainly gives a different sound from the V7.
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Im just reading through the past 6 months post and saw this. Ive seen this comment a few times (so not aimed directly as this poster) but cant quite understand it.

Am i to understand it means that the neck is slimmer than a P and so will produce a slightly different tone? Surely a 5 string P7 is going to have a wider neck than the standard 4 string Motown P bass?. As the term P7 is used and not P7 4 string im assuming this is only relevant to the 4 string P7?

After all, ive not seen the reverse said, that a 5 string V7 doesn't sound like a good jazz because it has a much wider neck.
 
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dave_bass5 said:
Am i to understand it means that the neck is slimmer than a P and so will produce a slightly different tone? Surely a 5 string P7 is going to have a wider neck than the standard 4 string Motown P bass?. As the term P7 is used and not P7 4 string im assuming this is only relevant to the 4 string P7?

After all, ive not seen the reverse said, that a 5 string V7 doesn't sound like a good jazz because it has a much wider neck.
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The P7 does have a j-neck. But don't listen to that kind of fudge. The Motown sound, or any sound indeed, has next to nothing to do with the width of the neck.
No-one in recorded history has ever listened to a Motown record and said: "Oh, that bass sound, it's all in the neck width!"
With flatwounds and a foam mute, the P7 will work just as fine for Motown-stuff as any other p-bass would.
 
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#11,643
Modler said:
The P7 does have a j-neck. But don't listen to that kind of fudge. The Motown sound, or any sound indeed, has next to nothing to do with the width of the neck.
No-one in recorded history has ever listened to a Motown record and said: "Oh, that bass sound, it's all in the neck width!"
With flatwounds and a foam mute, the P7 will work just as fine for Motown-stuff as any other p-bass would.
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I've got flats and one of those wraps on the neck just under the nut on an alder P7 5, and... yeah. I'm no Motown bassist not by a mile... but the bass sounds like it would be at home in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. :)

J.Ja
 
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Thats what I thought, and Duck Dunn seemed to get a pretty cool vintage tone with his jazz necked P bass.

I like everything about my P7 other than the Vol/tone knob. Its working fine (as are all the knobs), but it's wonky. I'm not sure if its the shaft or the plastic knobs. Its not drastic, but it just looks funny as it's one of the taller ones. Not a big deal and I'm not sending back just for that. I feel lucky the knobs aren't tight like some others.

Oh, and it weighs dead on 10lbs. A bit disappointing but no big deal. My Mono strap makes it feel much lighter.
 
#11,648
Modler said:
With flatwounds and a foam mute, the P7 will work just as fine for Motown-stuff as any other p-bass would.
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My V7 1st Gen alder/rosewood is my best-sounding bass out of about 15 for using a foam mute, very Motown to upright-ish jazz.

I am currently using a NordyMute which I like b/c you can adjust the amount of muting by changing how far into the foam slots the strings go, and by angling it you can, say, provide less mute on the highest-pitched strings vs. the lower ones. I want motown thunk on E, A, and even D, but I generally want less on the G-- because of the light/weak vibration of the G, it's sustain is killed much more by a standard mute than lower strings. I can even that out to my liking, allowing more melodic and solo play more easily on the higher end while keeping the lows thunky like motown or an upright. I use this set-up a lot with my main project.

Sorry for the mute aside-- my actual point is, V7 works reeeally well for foam muting to obtain traditional tones, IMO.
 
#11,649
thatpatguy said:
looks like Sire has taken down the V10 page on their site. Leaked too early I guess?
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I hadn't heard/seen that about a V10. What's the deal with that supposed to be? Just an enhanced V9?

Still waiting for their acoustic guitars (R3, R7) to come out in the US-- available in the UK and in Asia. Originally was supposed to be announced as available in US in December. Think I'd like to try one.
 
#11,655
Just received my P7 gen2 5:er.

First impressions: The neck is much more comfortable compared to gen 1. The flatter radius combined with the rolled edges is heaven sent. Probably the best 5:er neck i've ever played. I got a Peavey Cirrus 5:er coming friday so we'll see how it holds up compared to that neck.
Setup is dead on, very very low action without any buzzing.

I'll probably will be getting rid of my V7 gen 1 now. Can't go back to a 7.25 radius now
 
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IsleyBros said:
Just received my P7 gen2 5:er.

First impressions: The neck is much more comfortable compared to gen 1. The flatter radius combined with the rolled edges is heaven sent. Probably the best 5:er neck i've ever played. I got a Peavey Cirrus 5:er coming friday so we'll see how it holds up compared to that neck.
Setup is dead on, very very low action without any buzzing.

I'll probably will be getting rid of my V7 gen 1 now. Can't go back to a 7.25 radius now
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Got mine yesterday and agree 100%. Ive not needed to change the action at all, although i have tightened up the truss rod a bit.
 
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#11,657
thatpatguy said:
this my biggest beef with what Sire has been doing. I'd be so much happier with SIRE on the headstock and either a Marcus signature or MM brand or something secondary to that. That said, it doesn't bug me enough to not play one :)
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Doesnt bother me either, but im starting to feel the Marcus Miller connection is wearing a bit thin.
 
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#11,660
thatpatguy said:
this my biggest beef with what Sire has been doing. I'd be so much happier with SIRE on the headstock and either a Marcus signature or MM brand or something secondary to that. That said, it doesn't bug me enough to not play one :)
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MasterG said:
Sand it off,put a decal over it or paint it...whats the big deal.
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Or better yet, just ignore it. It's not like you have to read it while you're playing it. ;)

This is echoing what's being said on the V10-related thread. Some TB'ers are rolling their eyes about the trivialities of Marcus Miller's prominence on the headstock. As far as this Sire-owner is concerned, I couldn't give less of a damn. Miller helped them gain a level of exposure their parent company, Dame, could only dream of. So, if his contract with them insists the reflect his association, more power to both of them. Besides, said contract will probably expire, or be subject to some revision, somewhere down the line. That'll probably be when the logo changes to a Sire-first style. (I can't speak for Korean contracts, but if they're similar to most Japanese contracts, it should have a high degree of baked-in simplicity and straightforwardness, especially when compared to American ones. It's kinda like comparing a one-page pamphlet to a car's operation manual.)

All that being said, my old inner-art-student does wish they'd used something classier than some Helvetica Neue-esque sans-serif font. Snoooooooze! :sleep: :p
 

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