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This is a real boutique bass, high quality for high price.
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It is pretty obvious, what Sire was trying to copy.
I really wonder why people still dislike the price point of a V10.
The Sadowsky is more than 4 times higher in price.
Quality wise the ratio is much closer.
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It is pretty obvious, what Sire was trying to copy.
I really wonder why people still dislike the price point of a V10.
The Sadowsky is more than 4 times higher in price.
Quality wise the ratio is much closer.
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A question for the 2nd Gen owners: Do you actually prefer the rolled edges neck to the normal edges? I played a 2nd Gen 5-string recently and found I did *not* like it -- the B and G strings seemed to want to slip off the board on occasion. My white V3 2nd gen inexplicably has a non-rolled neck, which I am very happy about.
I hear what your saying but you have to compare apples to apples , a Sadowsky Metro Express is the price point of comparison not a NYC model. At 300.00 more I would do the Sadowsky every time and I own a Sire .........[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I have a P7 5 1st Gen , when I got it I was able to play every Sire model avail. at the time and they only had a V9 at the time. I didn't much care for it , really didn't need another jazz bass since I already had a Sadowsky jazz. My point was maybe to compare a Sire and Sadowsky at similar prices would be a better gauge. For me I would rather do either a Sad Metro Express 4 or 5r for 300.00 or 400.00 more than the cost of the Sire V10. For me it's a tool and I would rather have a build level and customer service Sire does have and just can't provide and IMO sound , feel and quailty level that is far better than a Sire. I very much like my P7 , nice bass for the $$ but I wouldn't get myself a V10 when for a few $$ I could get the Sadowsky. I see your in NJ , drive into LIC for a day and try one if you haven't ever played one ,they may not be your thing but I will say this you can play a 1800.00 Sadowsky and a 5000.00 Sadowsky [ like models ] and they will sound , feel and play the same the only difference will really only be the woods
I could say the same to you. Drive to NJ and actually PLAY a V10 before passing judgement. The asymmetrical roasted maple neck is worth the price of admission alone.
Not passing judgement at all , was just replying to a comparison of 2 basses with a 2500.00 difference in price and why someone would dislike the V10 price point using my point of view and my reasoning as an example and answering your question , I wasn't dumping on the V10.
WOW, what a nice Bass. But I think, your example does not match. No flamed maple top, no roasted flamed maple neck, no asymmetrical shaped neck, no rolled edges. That's what you get with a V10. IMO much more for less money. I would compare you example with a V7 2ndG and guess what, the Sire would win. Anyway at the end the instrument has to speak to you, no matter price and other comparable aspects. For me my V10 does a great job here and I am happy, that I gave it a try.
Nothing bad to say about Sadowskys. They're great instruments and of course given the history involved a Sadowsky bass stands for a reliable, quality made, no nonsense Fender style bass with good second hand value.
Where I live even a Metro Express costs around 40% more and my input in this thread is that after taking a bit of a chance and getting my V10 I was really very pleasantly surprised by, first and most of all, the quality of the wood and wood craftsmanship at the price point the bass lands. The Sadowskys in the lower price category, although probably being made out of ok wood, is not even close to the V10 in this department despite the 40% higher price. Just play the asymmetrical roasted neck and I think you'll get what that hype is about.
The pickups are not my favorites on the Sire, or the Sadowsky. The Sadowsky has tuners and bridge with a higher quality feel although the V10s do the job with nothing really to complain about except maybe the esthetics.
All in all I think the point trying to be made here is nothing about downtalking the great Sadowsky instruments, that would just be stupid considering what that company has accomplished in the bass society, but more to try to let anyone curious and insecure about the Sire V10 know that the higher price is definitely not out of the blue but rather a bang for the buck considering what you get.
I say if you really want the most bass for the money and a super price worthy, inexpensive but good bass buy a V3. I have one, a 2nd gen, and I can't believe they make a bass of this caliber at the price they do.
The V10 is physically totally different and more of a boutique bass but it really stands up well for what it is.
Where I live even a Metro Express costs around 40% more and my input in this thread is that after taking a bit of a chance and getting my V10 I was really very pleasantly surprised by, first and most of all, the quality of the wood and wood craftsmanship at the price point the bass lands. The Sadowskys in the lower price category, although probably being made out of ok wood, is not even close to the V10 in this department despite the 40% higher price. Just play the asymmetrical roasted neck and I think you'll get what that hype is about.
The pickups are not my favorites on the Sire, or the Sadowsky. The Sadowsky has tuners and bridge with a higher quality feel although the V10s do the job with nothing really to complain about except maybe the esthetics.
All in all I think the point trying to be made here is nothing about downtalking the great Sadowsky instruments, that would just be stupid considering what that company has accomplished in the bass society, but more to try to let anyone curious and insecure about the Sire V10 know that the higher price is definitely not out of the blue but rather a bang for the buck considering what you get.
I say if you really want the most bass for the money and a super price worthy, inexpensive but good bass buy a V3. I have one, a 2nd gen, and I can't believe they make a bass of this caliber at the price they do.
The V10 is physically totally different and more of a boutique bass but it really stands up well for what it is.
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I prefer the rolled edges but I can see the problems you're describing. I think they differ from bass to bass depending on how close to the edge the strings comes. I don't have that problem on any of my 3 second gen Sires though I've had it on other basses through the years. Also I think it's supposed to be rolled edges on the V3 2nd gen as well but since it has smaller vintage frets it doesn't get as obvious as on the V7 and V10. The rolled edges thing is not as big as Sire is trying to make it in advertising the 2nd gen changes since it's not that complicated to smooth the frets and edges yourself or by a luthier. But it's nice to have it from the start... but no game changer.
I have 3 1st gen and 3 2nd gen Sires and never notice the difference. The first gen V7 and P7 basses were well finished and didn't really suffer from any sharp fret edges.
Rolling the edges is a lot more than just smooth fret edges. I haven't felt a 2nd gen Sire yet, but I am in love with the rolled edges on my USA Reverend R5Ls.
+1 My V10 playing experience is like night and day compared to my P7. It might be more than the rolled edges (Asymmetrical neck, satin finish etc), but I can feel the difference for sure.
Yes, on the V10 it's definitely more than just the smoother edges. The whole feel of the neck with the new asymmetrical profile as well as the fact that the necks wooden edges also seems to be much more rounded so it gives you more of the upright bass feel downsized. Feels great!
I had a 1 gen V7 before and at least on that one I really didn't like the neck. Can't really put it in words but it felt more slim and sharp and not as comfortable as my 2nd gen Sires... the V10 being the one with the most improved neck.
I hope that they come out with this neck on other Sires, like the P7.
Hmm.... I just don't notice the difference. Maybe because I play with a classical guitar style with the thumb always behind the neck?
I suppose it's possible, but I would expect not, as it is an "upgrade" feature that urges the buyer toward the higher-grade instrument.
