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Sire Z3 bass review

Hey guys. I've officially been a member for about a year, but this will be my first post. I have learned so many things from many of you over the years, so I figured this would be my chance to pass along some information. I just received a Sire Z3 four string in black sparkle, after being on a preorder list for the last several months. There were almost no hands on reviews of these basses, because they were not in circulation yet. So after having had a few days with the bass, and exchanging emails with Sire, this is what I've found.

First off is the finish. Upon unboxing the bass, I was a little surprised that the black sparkle finish was much more "glittery" than it appeared to be in the photos. I'm usually pretty conservative and stick with white, black and sunburst basses, so this will be an adjustment for me (see attached pics). This is not a knock, as the finish is nicely done. The finish on the neck consists of a dark vintage amber tint similar to the finish on the Squire classic vibe line. The fretboard and top of the headstock have a gloss finish, while the back of the neck is a very smooth satin. The lower horn has been slightly extended on the 4 string models since their earlier prototypes, which IMO was an improvement. The Sire headstock is not ugly IMO, but it never looked right to me on their P and J models. On this model though, I think it looks okay.

Now on to the specs. Upon arrival, my bass weighed in at 8 lbs, 6 oz, and it was it was strung with D'addario NPS strings gauged 45-105. The neck was straight and the relief was dead on. The neck is a C shape with a 12" radius and 22 medium jumbo frets. As this is my first Sire, I am very impressed with their rolled fingerboard considering the price point. After installing my usual DR Lo Riders (40-100), the only adjustment needed, other than lowering the action to my preferences and lowering the pickup, was the nut. The bone nut was cut a little high, which made the bass a little hard to fret at the first two frets. It took me about 30 minutes to file those down, and now she plays great. For reference, I own two Sterling basses (sub Ray4 and 24CA). The Sire neck feels a bit chunkier than the Sterlings. Sire lists the nut as 42 mm (1.65") which I actually prefer over the 1.5" nut on the Sterling. The MM style pickup is wired in parallel, not in series like the Sterlings, which I did confirm by email with Sire CS. The hardware is the standard fare at this price point and similar to that of the Sterling Ray4. The tuners and bridge are very basic, but they are serviceable. I have no intention of changing them.

Sound: The 18v 3 band preamp and ceramic pickup on this model have a LOT of output. I had to lower the pickup about as low as the one on my Ray4 to get that output where I like it. The treble knob does not seem to make drastic changes either way, but sounds about right set flat (detent). However, the bass knob is VERY responsive, almost too much so at 75%. The bass knob also serves as a push/pull active/passive switch. I prefer the active setting, which gives it that punchy stingray sound I hear in my head. The mids knob is also very responsive but not over the top. At 75%, it sounds mid heavy and punchy like my Ray4. It goes to a very scooped tone at 25% giving it a cleaner rounder sound. My favorite setting seems to be bass and treble set flat (detent) with mids slightly boosted.

Overall, I am very happy with this purchase. I have been and still am a huge fan of the Sterling SUB and CA line of basses, which I feel are some of the best value for dollar instruments on the market these days, as well a great modding platforms. The fit and finish on the Sire Z3, as well as the neck, preamp and passive mode, definitely exceeds that of the Sterling SUB line, although it costs $100 more. Otherwise the Z3 is, IMO, very similar and probably slightly better than the Sterling 24CA basses due to it having more options on tap while still being a sub $500.00 instrument. I hope this review will be helpful to someone who is thinking about purchasing one of these basses. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.
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Did you get a chance to compare it to a Sterling or MM Stingray type in terms of sound? I'm curious if it actually mimics the Stingray sound.
Yes. I don't currently own an EBMM Stingray, but I do have a Sterling sub Ray4 and a Ray24 CA to compare it to. With the 18v preamp and the pickup wired in parallel, it's kinda sounds to me like a stingray special with a ceramic pickup. I think it gets very close to that stingray sound, and with the mids boosted, almost exactly like my Sterling Ray4. In a mix, it would probably be hard to tell the difference.
 
Yes. I don't currently own an EBMM Stingray, but I do have a Sterling sub Ray4 and a Ray24 CA to compare it to. With the 18v preamp and the pickup wired in parallel, it's kinda sounds to me like a stingray special with a ceramic pickup. I think it gets very close to that stingray sound, and with the mids boosted, almost exactly like my Sterling Ray4. In a mix, it would probably be hard to tell the difference.
How about passive-mode tone?
 
How about passive-mode tone?
Sounds similar to the tone in active mode with everything set flat. Same stingray tone, but of course the output drops slightly. It doesn't drop as much as my Lakland 55-OS which has very low output in passive mode. If you need that really punchy stingray tone in passive mode, you'll have to bump the mids slightly on your amp.
 
Hey guys. I've officially been a member for about a year, but this will be my first post. I have learned so many things from many of you over the years, so I figured this would be my chance to pass along some information. I just received a Sire Z3 four string in black sparkle, after being on a preorder list for the last several months. There were almost no hands on reviews of these basses, because they were not in circulation yet. So after having had a few days with the bass, and exchanging emails with Sire, this is what I've found.

First off is the finish. Upon unboxing the bass, I was a little surprised that the black sparkle finish was much more "glittery" than it appeared to be in the photos. I'm usually pretty conservative and stick with white, black and sunburst basses, so this will be an adjustment for me (see attached pics). This is not a knock, as the finish is nicely done. The finish on the neck consists of a dark vintage amber tint similar to the finish on the Squire classic vibe line. The fretboard and top of the headstock have a gloss finish, while the back of the neck is a very smooth satin. The lower horn has been slightly extended on the 4 string models since their earlier prototypes, which IMO was an improvement. The Sire headstock is not ugly IMO, but it never looked right to me on their P and J models. On this model though, I think it looks okay.

Now on to the specs. Upon arrival, my bass weighed in at 8 lbs, 6 oz, and it was it was strung with D'addario NPS strings gauged 45-105. The neck was straight and the relief was dead on. The neck is a C shape with a 12" radius and 22 medium jumbo frets. As this is my first Sire, I am very impressed with their rolled fingerboard considering the price point. After installing my usual DR Lo Riders (40-100), the only adjustment needed, other than lowering the action to my preferences and lowering the pickup, was the nut. The bone nut was cut a little high, which made the bass a little hard to fret at the first two frets. It took me about 30 minutes to file those down, and now she plays great. For reference, I own two Sterling basses (sub Ray4 and 24CA). The Sire neck feels a bit chunkier than the Sterlings. Sire lists the nut as 42 mm (1.65") which I actually prefer over the 1.5" nut on the Sterling. The MM style pickup is wired in parallel, not in series like the Sterlings, which I did confirm by email with Sire CS. The hardware is the standard fare at this price point and similar to that of the Sterling Ray4. The tuners and bridge are very basic, but they are serviceable. I have no intention of changing them.

Sound: The 18v 3 band preamp and ceramic pickup on this model have a LOT of output. I had to lower the pickup about as low as the one on my Ray4 to get that output where I like it. The treble knob does not seem to make drastic changes either way, but sounds about right set flat (detent). However, the bass knob is VERY responsive, almost too much so at 75%. The bass knob also serves as a push/pull active/passive switch. I prefer the active setting, which gives it that punchy stingray sound I hear in my head. The mids knob is also very responsive but not over the top. At 75%, it sounds mid heavy and punchy like my Ray4. It goes to a very scooped tone at 25% giving it a cleaner rounder sound. My favorite setting seems to be bass and treble set flat (detent) with mids slightly boosted.

Overall, I am very happy with this purchase. I have been and still am a huge fan of the Sterling SUB and CA line of basses, which I feel are some of the best value for dollar instruments on the market these days, as well a great modding platforms. The fit and finish on the Sire Z3, as well as the neck, preamp and passive mode, definitely exceeds that of the Sterling SUB line, although it costs $100 more. Otherwise the Z3 is, IMO, very similar and probably slightly better than the Sterling 24CA basses due to it having more options on tap while still being a sub $500.00 instrument. I hope this review will be helpful to someone who is thinking about purchasing one of these basses. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.View attachment 7028885View attachment 7028886View attachment 7028887View attachment 7028888
Thanks for the review. Very insightful! I have one on the way so very happy that you took the time to post this :)
 
Thanks for sharing…Great write up.
How is the playability?
Do you feel it nails the classic stingray sound or good facsimile?
 
Great review! I picked up a z7 and you are pretty much dead on. I also have two Stingray Specials (I love them dearly so they will never see a dive bar gig) and the z7 nails it pretty well. The z7 also has the flexibility with the jazz pickup (and the eq) that makes it great at the price. Playability, neck and body are all great so far - no it's nowhere near as refined as the Stingrays but at 1/4 the price? Great dive bar Special replacement.
 
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Great review! I picked up a z5 and you are pretty much dead on. I also have two Stingray Specials (I love them dearly so they will never see a dive bar gig) and the z5 nails it pretty well. The z5 also has the flexibility with the jazz pickup (and the eq) that makes it great at the price. Playability, neck and body are all great so far - no it's nowhere near as refined as the Stingrays but at 1/4 the price? Great dive bar Special replacement.
That's how I feel about it too. A stingray special at a fraction of the price. I thought I read somewhere that pickups in your model are alnico, as opposed to the ceramic pickup in the Z3. Not sure if you can confirm that? If so, that would be an upgrade, but the ceramic pickup in mine sounds just fine.
 
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Great review! I picked up a z5 and you are pretty much dead on. I also have two Stingray Specials (I love them dearly so they will never see a dive bar gig) and the z5 nails it pretty well. The z5 also has the flexibility with the jazz pickup (and the eq) that makes it great at the price. Playability, neck and body are all great so far - no it's nowhere near as refined as the Stingrays but at 1/4 the price? Great dive bar Special replacement.
z5? Is that the nickname for a 5 string z3 (or z7?) or just a typo (or new model?)? Not being snarky, just wondering. Love the simplicity and look of the z3 but that z7 in burgundy with matching headstock and ebony fretboard . . . oh my.
 
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That's how I feel about it too. A stingray special at a fraction of the price. I thought I read somewhere that pickups in your model are alnico, as opposed to the ceramic pickup in the Z3. Not sure if you can confirm that? If so, that would be an upgrade, but the ceramic pickup in mine sounds just fine.
As per Sire, yes Alnico. To be honest in the Andertons review there really wasn't a crazy amount of difference. I still think both the Z3 and Z7 are a steal. (so much so I have another on order).

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Nice review and a nice bass! Since in the EU market (Thomann), the Z3 and Ray4 are competing at pretty much the same price point (~450 EUR), from what I'm reading the Z3 sounds like a better deal unless someone just absolutely requires the exact Stingray body.

What are the pickup dimensions? Is it standard MM size or "custom"? On my Sire M2 I had to do some dremel work on the pickup cavity to be able to fit some EMG soapbars in it.