I'll show you the beer sweetspots if you move! Or if you happen to be in town while I'm there
How much beer per adult can you bring back (duty free) in the states after a few day trips? The other way around I think it's 8L but I'm not sure.
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Small town living... like it/hate it?
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I'll show you the beer sweetspots if you move! Or if you happen to be in town while I'm there
How much beer per adult can you bring back (duty free) in the states after a few day trips? The other way around I think it's 8L but I'm not sure.
I live in a small town and love it. Housing average is $500K here, but that helps keep the rednecks out. The same houses went for about $150K in St. Louis County a few years ago when I lived there (4 br. 3+ba., etc.).
The climate is sure better out here. No sweating, no bugs...
The climate is sure better out here. No sweating, no bugs...
I love country living - we moved to the very small town or Orting, WA (pop currently 7000) back in 96' to get away from it all. I have MT Rainier in my back yard, and on a heavily wooded lot with lots of wildlife. I'm a half hour from Puyallup where I do most of my shopping.
I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I'll show you the beer sweetspots if you move! Or if you happen to be in town while I'm there
How much beer per adult can you bring back (duty free) in the states after a few day trips? The other way around I think it's 8L but I'm not sure.
See that's the problem, the beer was so good that it just didn't last long enough for me to bring any large amount home...
Actually I think I had figured it out to maybe like 3-4 of the big bottles for the return trip. (only one made it...burp)
I just checked and if you stay more than 48 hours you can bring back a case (24) duty free. If you want more the duty fee are about 2-3$ per case I think. How big is your trunk?
I just checked and if you stay more than 48 hours you can bring back a case (24) duty free. If you want more the duty fee are about 2-3$ per case I think. How big is your trunk?
I'd need a truck, dude.
I live in a small town of 1200 people in a 650 sq. mile county with a total population of around 14000.
I love it. I have concluded that the main thing is you need to be a person who likes to be at home, a home body as they say, and love the outdoors are are an inner-fulfilled person who is good at entertaining/occupying yourself.
I am within 30 minutes of larger towns, one hour to two from cities, when I need "to go to town" which is seldom.
If you are a person who always has to be entertained by something outside yourself and home, need to have restaurants malls shopping centers and western industrial sprawl within minutes, love to be in crowds of people and traffic, it is probably not for you.
I have the advantage of having been able to make a living in a service business close to home. Most here have to travel for work, I was glad to in the past when I was younger. I enjoy having found all the little nooks and crannies to find goods and services in a rural area. I make fun of my friends when I tell them all this and they give me the "That's not on an interstate exit how could it possibly exist"? look and dialogue. It's not for everyone for sure. Of course, we have the internet, and have the whole outside world on my desktop. I love ordering something I need and having it dropped at my door two days later. Nobody's really isolated anymore.
I love it. I have concluded that the main thing is you need to be a person who likes to be at home, a home body as they say, and love the outdoors are are an inner-fulfilled person who is good at entertaining/occupying yourself.
I am within 30 minutes of larger towns, one hour to two from cities, when I need "to go to town" which is seldom.
If you are a person who always has to be entertained by something outside yourself and home, need to have restaurants malls shopping centers and western industrial sprawl within minutes, love to be in crowds of people and traffic, it is probably not for you.
I have the advantage of having been able to make a living in a service business close to home. Most here have to travel for work, I was glad to in the past when I was younger. I enjoy having found all the little nooks and crannies to find goods and services in a rural area. I make fun of my friends when I tell them all this and they give me the "That's not on an interstate exit how could it possibly exist"? look and dialogue. It's not for everyone for sure. Of course, we have the internet, and have the whole outside world on my desktop. I love ordering something I need and having it dropped at my door two days later. Nobody's really isolated anymore.
If you have the skill and the money to make all of your own fun and don't want to rely on a community for any of your entertainment, social interaction, or the upbringing of your children, then rural living is nice. Who doesn't love the outdoors and enough space that you can do what you want without bothering your neighbors?
If you enjoy participating in the things that are too big for a single household, like arts(including live music), nightlife, and cultural education, you're not going to find them in a small town. There might be the occasional event, but it's the rare exception that proves the rule.
Of course you can leave a city to go see the great outdoors and you can leave the country to go visit a museum, but one is definitely networked living while the other is insular and the difference in these atmospheres becomes very palpable when you've lived in both settings.
Small towns are also much more homogeneous population wise. The limited economic opportunity in rural places means outsiders don't usually move into the town and traveled or educated natives leave the town to go live somewhere they can make more money. That's not a value judgment on the people that remain, I'm just pointing out that small towns naturally funnel down to a less diverse population.
If you think well-traveled people who like to educate themselves are better company than your average homebody, you might get bored. If you think such people are uppity snobs and you want to rub elbows with more genuine folk, too bad because you're the outsider moving in and the genuine locals are going to think you're an uppity snob that needs ignoring anyway
If you enjoy participating in the things that are too big for a single household, like arts(including live music), nightlife, and cultural education, you're not going to find them in a small town. There might be the occasional event, but it's the rare exception that proves the rule.
Of course you can leave a city to go see the great outdoors and you can leave the country to go visit a museum, but one is definitely networked living while the other is insular and the difference in these atmospheres becomes very palpable when you've lived in both settings.
Small towns are also much more homogeneous population wise. The limited economic opportunity in rural places means outsiders don't usually move into the town and traveled or educated natives leave the town to go live somewhere they can make more money. That's not a value judgment on the people that remain, I'm just pointing out that small towns naturally funnel down to a less diverse population.
If you think well-traveled people who like to educate themselves are better company than your average homebody, you might get bored. If you think such people are uppity snobs and you want to rub elbows with more genuine folk, too bad because you're the outsider moving in and the genuine locals are going to think you're an uppity snob that needs ignoring anyway
Two months ago I moved my business and myself from a first ring suburb to a town 34 miles outside the city and a population of about 20,000. I can walk to the river (Mississippi) from my shop or house.
I love it out here. I think my blood pressure has gone way down. I find myself much calmer and enjoying life much more. I can not even stand driving into the cities any more.
And I cut my total overhead $2200.00 a month.
I love it out here. I think my blood pressure has gone way down. I find myself much calmer and enjoying life much more. I can not even stand driving into the cities any more.
And I cut my total overhead $2200.00 a month.
I tried it for 21 months, I strongly dislike small town living. I can't wait to move home.
Interestingly, it costs us plenty more per month to live out in the woods.
-Mike
Interestingly, it costs us plenty more per month to live out in the woods.
-Mike
I grew up in a small town i south tx. About 5000 people. I loved it. Mexico was an hour west and the beach an hour east. I've lived in bigger cities and college towns. I've lived in a small town in the center of Tx for the last 16years and cant complain. I commuted 50miles one way for 6 years. I drove an hour to get to work. My sister in the Dallas area commutes an hour but only lives 10miles from work. Now, I live 2 miles from work. I can get up at 5:30 get ready go to 7-11 for coffee and get to work 10min early.
I'm about 11 miles from the Birmingham (AL) city limits but it's in the direction where none of the "it" people want to go so it could just as well be on Mars.
As big cities go, B'ham is somewhere between a burg and a hamlet. It's big enough to be able to find most anything, including a high murder rate, but small enough it's easy to get around in. We are big enough to have world class eateries and entertainment, but small enough to not need a reservation unless it's a football weekend.
Out here though I'm on 4 acres and I'm far enough back from the road the house can't be seen. My driveway looks like a cow path and your average small to mid size car would not make it from the pavement to my dooryard. The smallest lots out here are 2 acres so no one is jammed up against anyone.
Out back I could be 100 miles from anything so it's my kind of place.
Oh, and put me down in the "love it" camp for small town living.
As big cities go, B'ham is somewhere between a burg and a hamlet. It's big enough to be able to find most anything, including a high murder rate, but small enough it's easy to get around in. We are big enough to have world class eateries and entertainment, but small enough to not need a reservation unless it's a football weekend.
Out here though I'm on 4 acres and I'm far enough back from the road the house can't be seen. My driveway looks like a cow path and your average small to mid size car would not make it from the pavement to my dooryard. The smallest lots out here are 2 acres so no one is jammed up against anyone.
Out back I could be 100 miles from anything so it's my kind of place.
Oh, and put me down in the "love it" camp for small town living.
Is 50,000 a small town. There's nothing happening music wise or other. My wife and I went to a good restaurant (sushi believe intro not) and a movie. A movie was our best option.
As far as playing music...I quit almost 2 years ago. No money in it. No one cared - jazz gigs anyway. About ready to sell ally stuff and just stop all together.
As far as playing music...I quit almost 2 years ago. No money in it. No one cared - jazz gigs anyway. About ready to sell ally stuff and just stop all together.
85,000 population. Hate it with every fiber of my being. Nothing to do & the majority of the population are hillbilles & rednecks.
