This is a hopeless argument. The fact is that both of you don't like smoking!
Is that a fact? Where did I mention that? I didn't. It may be easier for you to swallow this down if you think that people for smoking bans are militant smoke haters who want to get rid of smoking, but that's simply not the case. Many smokers are for indoor smoking bans as well.
And that's absolutely ok! You have every choice to go to a bar that doesn't allow it. If a bar has allowed smoking forever, and their customers are OK with that, you probably shouldn't go to that bar.
If a bar hasn't allowed blacks forever, and my black buddy and I want to get a beer, we should just avoid that place, right?
If girls in promiscuous clothing make me uncomfortable, but I really want some wings, I'm probably not going to go to Hooters, but another restaurant that serves them without the hot teens in short shorts.
Fine by me. When those short-shorts start cause public health concerns, let me know.
This argument isn't about smoking, if you ask me.
No one did, but you're right. It's about public health laws.
The fact of the matter is that smoking IS legal (and I'd like to see them try to make it not...). Smoking in bars is legal (here) as long as food isn't served. What gives you the right to push your agenda on business owners allowing a legal practice?
We've been over this. Legal in your home does not mean legal in a public space. Just like all other health codes are put on privately-owned public serving businesses.
I'd like to see you try to come to a bar here and tell the bar owner that you want him to tell someone to put out a cigarette. Someone will probably put out a cigarette on you.
Now you're sounding like a grade-school kid. "Try to say that to me in my neighborhood and we'll beat you up!" Come on, now- you were doing okay up to this point
Is it really that hard for you to go to a bar that doesn't allow smoking as opposed to one that does?
It's not my job to find a bar that follows public health codes and avoid the ones that don't.
I mean I'm not even that patriotic, but for ****'s sake, this is America! Smoking is not like serving rotten meat. That's just a stupid analogy.
How is it a stupid analogy? It's apples to apples. I know a lot of folks who like certain foods after they've gone bad. Heck, I like whole milk a bit after it's gone sour. If it is considered against a public health code, then that's all there is to it. You not liking it or not being able to intelligently debate it does not make it stupid.
The people in bars that allow smoking generally don't care about second hand smoke (and by generally, I mean all the time unless they're idiots). If all you're going to do is whine and complain about how you don't like the second hand smoke, and you refuse to find a different establishment then you're just an *******.
I'll let you guys have fun with your anti-smoking cool kids club, but I gotta go get some stuff done. I'll be back later... and I'm sure this will not have gotten anywhere.
This is just funny now. Every argument you've made has been intelligently refuted, and rather than deal with the examples you've been shown, you've just gone on to repeating yourself and name-calling. Come back later. Maybe you'll be ready to speak about the answers already given to every one of your bad examples.
(Fortunately, this isn't much of an issue in Illinois anymore.
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