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So about the chimp attack in Conn. It's getting creepy..

#22
kesslari said:
I was with you on the drunk driver part...
But the "Dangerous breeds of dogs" thing is largely a media creation, like this chimp incident (that is, they get a lot of publicity despite their relative rarity).
Consider the number of "dangerous dogs" (pit bulls, rotties, dobies, etc.) in CT, and the number of attacks, to the number of chimps... and to the number of drunk drivers and serious accidents...

For a balanced view on "dangerous dogs", check out the Bad Rap site (http://www.badrap.org ) particularly this page: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
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I'm not so sure that the site you linked to is particularly balanced. I would suggest looking for statistics on dog/human attacks by breed. A quick google:

Wiki said:
There are studies that claim certain breeds are more likely to attack than others. A study by Merritt Clifton, which analyzed serious attacks in the U.S. and Canada between 1982 and 2006, determined that Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios, and their mixes were responsible for 74% of attacks studied and 65% of fatalities.[6][7] Another study indicates that pit bulls and their mixes were involved in approximately one third of the reported human dog bite-related fatalities between 1981 and 1992, while Rottweilers were responsible for about half of those fatalities reported between 1993 and 1996. [7]
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Article said:
Between the years of 1979 and 1998 more than 300 people were killed by dog bite injuries, according to dog bite statistics. Twenty five different canine breeds have been identified in fatal dog bite accidents. Rottweilers and Pit Bulls account for approximately half of all dog bite related fatalities.
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another page said:
In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
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I think the last one is a bit odd though as there is no indication as to what a "serious attack" is.
 
#25
Here's an answer regarding chimps' strength from Invalid Link Removed.

Chimpanzees look mighty cute trucking around on their roller skates, wearing funny hats, and going "ook, ook," but when roused they are vicious little bastards and not to be trifled with. Blessed with a muscle structure considerably superior to that of Homo sapiens (if not nearly as fetching in a bathing suit), chimpanzees can handle almost anything that comes along. Three drunks at a carnival would be no sweat.

It's a lot easier to get a chimp in roller skates than it is to get him to pump iron — hence, most of the data on chimp strength is anecdotal and decidedly unscientific. In tests at the Bronx Zoo in 1924, a dynamometer — a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring — was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall, being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.) In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it.

As you might deduce, therefore, the word on keeping chimps as pets is a big negatory. Chimpanzees can never be fully domesticated; they're aggressive by nature and sooner or later they'll start to threaten their keepers in subtle ape ways that the untrained eye won't recognize, until one day — blammo.

But maybe you're thinking, I'll just keep the little beast until it starts to act tough, and then toss it back into the jungle. Wrong. A chimpanzee brought up in captivity won't be accepted by its brothers in the wild. Shunned, the citified chimp will either starve to death or be set upon by a simian hit squad. No matter how you look at it, keeping a chimp as a pet is dangerous and inhumane.

— Cecil Adams
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Wild animals are not meant to be kept as pets. This is why.
 
#26
Ignorance, plain and simple.

If the owner were not ignorant (or ignoring) the fact that the chimp could (and possibly would) rip the face off of a person she would not have been treating it as if it were a human child. He would have been kept in a proper enclosure and away from the general public.

If her friend were not ignorant (or ignoring) the fact that the chimp could rip off her face she would have avoided any contact with it where the chimp could get ahold of her face and rip it off.

I am not blaming the poor woman for getting her face ripped off - that is simply horrible.

But people in general - when it comes to ANY animal ownership - need to be realistic about their responsibilities. Some dogs are known to be 'flighty' and unpredictable. It's the owner's responsibility to know this and take appropriate measures to ensure his pet's and other people's safety.

If a person wants to own an animal that has the potential to do other people or animals harm, it's their full-on obligation to take every precaution and if their animal should act out and cause harm, it's the owner's responsibility - period.

I think the owner - as tragic as her story is - should be jailed. I think the poor chimp should be given to a rescue or preserve of some sort that's properly equipped to care for it.
 
#28
I don't find this surprising at all.The way she eats kisses baths with the chimp is sicko though.

People get married,have children,live in the same house for 20+ years.One night husband/wife goes mad and burns the other's face with boiled oil,throw acid on face,stab every 5cm square of their bodies etc..Apes,chimps,us...we are primates afterall.:eyebrow:
 
#34
Bryan R. Tyler said:
Get a pet monkey and keep him in a tank and you won't even get the risk of a bite.
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THAT could be trouble:
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#38
I have to add that I'm in the bathtub w/my cute little 250-lb chimpanzee right now- well at least I think I am. I can't see because my entire head is bandaged up due to my little darling having ripped my face half-off last week. My fault, really- I got the bath water just a smidge too hot. Silly me...
 

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