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So how long does it take to make progress on bass?

MarshallNole

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I started playing almost 9 months ago. I learned a song early on that I still play and I still mess it up here and there.

How long does it take to stop making the same mistakes over and over on songs?

And I haven't even gotten into a lot of theory yet.
 
All depends on your practising routine as well as your ability to take on new knowledge and to learn from experience/mistakes and successes.
How you practise is much more important in this than how many hours you put in.
 
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Good morning and welcome to the low end.

A simple answer to your question is: Your progress is directly proportional to your effort (which, as cnltb noted, is exhibited in the "how" as well as the "how much"). Assuming the song you learned isn't that tough, and you've been practicing it, oh, a few hours a week for 9 months, muscle memory should have kicked in and you can play it pretty clean.

A more complex answer is actually a question: What are your goals? It's difficult to gauge progress without having goals to work toward -- even if it's being able to play "Hot Cross Buns" or "Mary Had a Little Lamb." If you couldn't play those songs 9 months ago, then you're making progress. But if you're just randomly plunking around, it can be hard to feel you're getting anywhere.

My point: In my personal experience, I've felt I was making true progress when I was either a) learning songs in preparation for a performance or, more significantly, b) taking lessons. Realistic, achievable goals + good teacher who can create a plan to get you to your goals + practice = progress, that wonderful feeling of accomplishment, and the motivation to take the next step.

A final note: You're on a journey, and it never ends. Good luck, and happy playing!
 
If you are truly motivated, you will stick with it. If you stick with it, you will play, practice and think things through from a few different approaches. After a while repetitious patterns will become evident and you build skills and experience to draw from. Do learn theory, and read if you can. Listen to "real" music and take it apart, evaluate and put it together. Get help if you need it. Progress comes in fits and starts, sometimes easily and sometimes with much effort. You will get out of this what you put into it. Honest commitment is necessary...
 
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Be HUNGRY.

-set a SPECIFIC practice time . This is not to noodle, play your favorite song, or fart around. It can be twenty minutes even but set a goal beforehand and evaluate afterwards.

A good musician practices until its right, a GREAT MUSICIAN PRACTICES UNTIL HE CAN'T GET IT WRONG

Don't let 'wrong' be 95% of your practice - if you can't get something underhand in the time allotted, make your goal smaller (ie a lick instead of the whole song)

Think- if you learn or improve ONE THING A DAY, then you'll be better in 365 ways next year.

Don't practice what you're good at or what's easy for you



If you're remaking mistakes, isolate the problem area- is it that its too hard/technical? Isolate the lick and SLOW DOWN. Is it that you're never ready for 'that next section'? Practice the transition into it: know its coming and PLAN to be ready


I promise if you achieve ONE GOAL A DAY, aside from your regular songlearning, noodling, and funstuffñ youll make progress, consistently.





PS: a huge flaw of most musicians ive met is thinking you can play something when realistically you're stuttering /slowing down/ restarting. These crutches hurt when you play with a band, and its a hard Habit to break- make sure you perform PERFORM something correctly several times, because the stutters etc become the habit when its the majority of your reps, instead of the good music
 
Mostly my mistakes seem to come from focus on some songs. For example, I can play a couple songs perfectly and have done so, but I often hit a wrong note or play the wrong section of a song. Almost like a lack of focus? Maybe it is because I play late at night. When I play early on weekends I seem to do better. Some songs I've learned (a couple Tool and Red Hot Chili Peppers songs) I mess up simply because of techniques I haven't mastered yet.

someone asked my goals...

Well I got into this too late to ever do anything significant, so I will say my goals are just to learn all my favorite songs, learn about effects, achieve the tone I want, and learn all the techniques associated with bass guitar.
 
Mostly my mistakes seem to come from focus on some songs. For example, I can play a couple songs perfectly and have done so, but I often hit a wrong note or play the wrong section of a song. Almost like a lack of focus? Maybe it is because I play late at night. When I play early on weekends I seem to do better. Some songs I've learned (a couple Tool and Red Hot Chili Peppers songs) I mess up simply because of techniques I haven't mastered yet.

someone asked my goals...

Well I got into this too late to ever do anything significant, so I will say my goals are just to learn all my favorite songs, learn about effects, achieve the tone I want, and learn all the techniques associated with bass guitar.

Believe it or not, there's a parallel to athletics: To play your best, you have to BE your best. So if you're not at your best late at night (heaven knows I'm not), you won't play your best, and it won't be fun.

(BTW, this is supposed to be fun. And if you're having fun, well, that's something significant.)

You have a vision, for sure. Now chop it up into pieces you can manage, and make it achievable — one step at a time.

+1,000 to everything eddododo said.
 
Mostly my mistakes seem to come from focus on some songs. For example, I can play a couple songs perfectly and have done so, but I often hit a wrong note or play the wrong section of a song. Almost like a lack of focus? Maybe it is because I play late at night. When I play early on weekends I seem to do better. Some songs I've learned (a couple Tool and Red Hot Chili Peppers songs) I mess up simply because of techniques I haven't mastered yet.

someone asked my goals...

Well I got into this too late to ever do anything significant, so I will say my goals are just to learn all my favorite songs, learn about effects, achieve the tone I want, and learn all the techniques associated with bass guitar.
Hell I have multiple jazz degrees and I hit wrong notes and sections. But you're half-right about focus; sometimes its lack of focus, but sometimes its focusing on a blurry target... its hard to nail a song using math ( verse x 4 , chorus x 2 etc). The only way to be SURE is to KNOW the song. Not just the parts, but the whole sum. Pay attention to the drama, the progression. Know the recording... are there background vocals the second time, Hey I hear a wrong note in the piano in the second chorus, etc. If the song was playing already when you walk into a bar, would you know that the bridge is coming up and not another verse?

At the end of the day, you're learning a language. And like languages, there is mathy stuff that's important and there's stuff that's physically difficult (I couldn't say 'yellow' until I was five, and I learned to roll my r's three years ago), but the goal is to speak the language convincingly and comfortably enough that you can have something TO say and be able to say it.

Some people can translate spanish, some People can make it through their parisian honeymoon with broken French, and some peoppeople can FREELY THINK in multiple languages. But its never too late to try to communicate, it Just takes patience to progress.


In terms of brain science, you don't form synapse bridges WHILE you practice. Your actions inform your brain of what process its trying to streamline. We cannot multitask, it is humanly impossible, a myth. When you begin learning a task and it takes diverse coordination, your brain hops back and forth between the individual tasks.. lefthand Right finger timing left foot pat your head rub your belly. Synapse bridges are highways in your brain that allow these individual actions to be connected to eachother as "One Action" so your Mind doesn't have to jump from detail to detail , creating 'noise' and lag and inaccuracy. Imagine taking neighborhood roads from Miami to NYC, vs the highway. Well enough people needed to need to go from MIA to NYC before we had need for highways- that's multitasking leading to a coordinated action.

Some guys get far enough to fly from mia to nyc, but their jets shouldnt discourage your road trip.

If you're worried about the time it will take, the time is going to pass anyway, so you might as well get to the future having fun being better at bass
 
You will get smartass responses.. mine is .. "always." once you start playing 60 ish% of playing bass is mental and ignoring what some say, think, hear vs others. In other words.. I've been playing for .. 30ish years. It does not always show. Sometimes I rehearse 4-6 hours per day, other times 30 minutes. The day after a show, I can't even pick up a bass, especially when playing two nights in a row. I have a day job as well, which makes it tough. So your question is akin to "what do I like?" or "what color should be my favourite.." I am not being mean. We could all write books here.

Your answer depends on how you define "progress." If a guy tells me "hey, this is D minor.. we're going to move it up to xxxx" I know what he's talking about, live, onstage, real-time, and can make adjustments. If a band I am filling in for forgets to tell me they transposed a few songs and step 1/2 up/down, or even full step up, I can deal with that, live, on the fly.. and yet, everytime I think I know what I am doing, I see Stanley Clarke or even other local musicians whom play extremely well, and better than me. Also, I've seen 13 year old kids pick up a bass in front of me and do a bass line that sounds melodic and the kid tells me , "I just started playing last week." So, my point is we never stop learning.
I often even ask myself how much of what I do is talent vs practice? I have this thing where I practice a LOT and can read music, theory, etc.. but I often do so out of fear of "losing it" to quote a Rush song I love.. meaning, I fear I won't be as good unless I practice x amout per day.

My advice is to learn as many songs as you want or can. and ignore what a lot of people say about bass playing being "hard," "easy," or "should," etc.. I'd rather be a guy / gal whom can write a nice bass line and play melodically than solo all night like Victor Wooten or even Stanley Clarke (both of whom I IMMENSELY respect). Be influenced by every bass player you hear and play as many songs as you can. When you learn 20 songs from 20 different artists, you'll start to see patterns.. play country, rock, jazz and you'll hear the similarities.
 
oh yeah, if you're going to play live ever, in your lifetime, play STANDING UP, with a good guitar strap and get used to playing in a standing position. or just make sure the bass is in the same position whether standing or sitting. When I was a kid, I played through a crappy Ampeg combo amp, way underpowered. I played live too, with it, and in order to hear myself I had to REALLY play hard. To this day, I pop strings at times out of the bridge and guys tell me to take it easy and not dig in so much live (which I do mostly). So get reasonably good gear so you can at least hear yourself and not develop weird techniques like me. Develop calluses too because you'll need them, and the only way to do that is playing.
 
Plan the work, work the plan...set serious goals (realistic ones for your time/schedule) and MEET THOSE GOALS.

Always have a reason WHY you want to achieve results on this wonderful and wonderous instrument. Print those reasons, in black and white (literally) and post them up around your abode...have them where you can see them. On the fridge, near your desk, and yes...by your equipment. NEVER forgettting your goals; if you meet those goals, you'll feel seriously good about yourself, and make progress.

And always LOVE the music you're making! This isn't a race, a challenge, a tournament, a competing with the Percy Jones's....this is FUN! At the end of the day (the beginning too); always remember that!

And btw; progression happens for the rest of your life. There is no "I am here now, at the top of the mountain." You'll get to a certain level where the results won't come as fast and furiously as when you're new at it, but you'll continue to set goals so you do not plateau. So yes, hold on tight...buckle in, it's a long, enjoyable ride if you do it right. Mostly with 1). Patience 2). Goals 3). Love for it. Cheers.
 
oh yeah, if you're going to play live ever, in your lifetime, play STANDING UP, with a good guitar strap and get used to playing in a standing position. or just make sure the bass is in the same position whether standing or sitting.

I practice standing mostly and have an Italia leather strap that I love. However I am having to sit recently due to plantar fascitis.

Also, I like having my bass low when standing because it looks cool :) If you see the guy in my avatar, that is b asically how I have my bass while standing. In fact, when I sit it is more uncomfortable. My shoulder gets tired for some reason. It seems awkward when I can't let my arms hang down.
 
I used to feel like I put in alot of work and got not a whole lot out of it. Another key to practicing is recognizing these "breakthroughs." Being able to accurately analyze your own progress will also give a hint to what needs to be practiced more. Time and alot of playing has got me to understanding my progressive movement through playing bass.