Should I just show up without a DI Box and hope sound guy mics my cab? He might have a D.I. Box to Give me But He Might not. I might get micd or, I might just get left out of the mix. What do yall think?
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So Now That I Have A Ad200 And NO DI...
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What are you using for an amp? Does it have a built in DI/ line out. EDIT What is an AD200? Are you talking an acoustic guitar
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The AD200 is a bass amp made by Orange.
Let It Fall:
I always carry a Sennheiser e609 mic with me. It sounds great and the soundguys never have a problem getting a good sound with my setup and that mic.
Also, it's designed so you can just drape the mic cable over the top of your cab, set your head on top of it, and play. You don't necessarily even NEED a mic stand for it.
If you didn't want to do that, you could also just send a line out of the "slave out" jack. I believe it is post-pre, however, it would be just like running direct from the bass.
The AD200 is a bass amp made by Orange.
Let It Fall:
I always carry a Sennheiser e609 mic with me. It sounds great and the soundguys never have a problem getting a good sound with my setup and that mic.
Also, it's designed so you can just drape the mic cable over the top of your cab, set your head on top of it, and play. You don't necessarily even NEED a mic stand for it.
If you didn't want to do that, you could also just send a line out of the "slave out" jack. I believe it is post-pre, however, it would be just like running direct from the bass.
oh I was wondering about that slave out.
I have a shure 57 and a mic stand would that suffice? Im sure its not great for lows but..
I have a shure 57 and a mic stand would that suffice? Im sure its not great for lows but..
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i would just bring a di with me if i were you. get your self a decent di and just keep it with you. atleast if they say there not gonna mic your cab youll have the di if they dont already. imo if the sound guy doesnt have a di and doesnt want to mic you then he is a p.o.s. and doesnt really care about the sound anyway. you cant really change guys like that.
i had a sound guy get pissed at me cause i didnt bring a di with me so my response well cant we mic it? the head has a built in di we can just use that if you want. itll sound better micd anyway its ampeg svt cl and an ampeg 810 i dont lug it around for my health. his response was yea lets do that he put the mic there and wired it but i found out from a few friends in the crowd that he never even turned my channel on at the board. dick. just bring a di with you lol
sorry for the rant.
i had a sound guy get pissed at me cause i didnt bring a di with me so my response well cant we mic it? the head has a built in di we can just use that if you want. itll sound better micd anyway its ampeg svt cl and an ampeg 810 i dont lug it around for my health. his response was yea lets do that he put the mic there and wired it but i found out from a few friends in the crowd that he never even turned my channel on at the board. dick. just bring a di with you lol
sorry for the rant.
No. Vocal mics cannot do basses. They just can't. It's physically impossible for them to sound good.
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You are thinking of the sm58, which is a vocal mic.
The sm57 is a very popular guitar mic. Many soundguys have mic'd me with one of those and there has never been a problem. I'm sure they have to turn up their bass knob a bit, but it definitely isn't near impossible. In fact, this way they have given me many compliments on my tone.
The SM58 and SM57 are the same mic save for the ball or endcap.
A mic may be tweaked for vocal use, but it is just as usable on an instrument as a mic that is tweaked for instrument use (and vice-versa). All mics have their own sound anyway (and nearly all of them are crap).
Got something that needs to be in the PA? Grab a mic and see how it works. Then try another. Use the one you like best. Sometimes a combination gives the best result. I like the Audix D4 ($100 used) and the Heil PR40 ($250 used).
A mic may be tweaked for vocal use, but it is just as usable on an instrument as a mic that is tweaked for instrument use (and vice-versa). All mics have their own sound anyway (and nearly all of them are crap).
Got something that needs to be in the PA? Grab a mic and see how it works. Then try another. Use the one you like best. Sometimes a combination gives the best result. I like the Audix D4 ($100 used) and the Heil PR40 ($250 used).
actually, i've recorded some very cool bass tracks with an sm 58 + di for low end. i've also recorded some really good sounding tracks with a 58 by itself, though it does work better in conjunction with a di.
but i own a pr 40 because it's noticeably better for bass.
but i own a pr 40 because it's noticeably better for bass.
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Sure it can, and in fact may sound very good on particular combinations of amps and cabinets.
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I feel pretty much about SM57 or 58 for bass rigs as I do for vocals or drums or whatever. For some tonal profiles they are adequate if not necessarily inspiring. That's somewhat a taste issue and depends on the players' rig and his sound of course, but even among cheaper mics there have been many I thought were as good or better.
I tend to like pieces like the Beyer M88 as a bottom-line solution. Pretty much any reputable mic company makes a unit with a similar curve so I'm not a brand namer by any means. But I always have one of those around because it's very good at a LOT of jobs. Some other choices could have been in the display case that day for my auditioning, but this one won out over what else was there at the time.
I tend to like pieces like the Beyer M88 as a bottom-line solution. Pretty much any reputable mic company makes a unit with a similar curve so I'm not a brand namer by any means. But I always have one of those around because it's very good at a LOT of jobs. Some other choices could have been in the display case that day for my auditioning, but this one won out over what else was there at the time.
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If I am working with a sound guy I don't know, I will provide him with a copy of our stage plot in advance and talk to him to make sure that there are no issues with any of our requirements.
That's what I do! I think it makes soundguys more willing to help you out in getting two signals to the board. If you bring your own stuff, put some colored tape on it so the soundman does not end up taking it home with him! Had a soundguy do that to me - my $180 Radial JDI box he took! I see so many soundmen giving my acoustic guitarist a Behringer DI and they have tried giving that to me too. I always bust out the Radial JDI and they are more than HAPPY to use it over their crap!
An SM57 on a bass cab coupled with a DI signal - you get everything worthwhile about your tone. Let's not forget about the proximity effect and how it can help out bass cabs.
Au contraire, mon frere (oh contrair, mo-frair). People use 57's on bass cabs all the time with good results.
Also, that mo-frair sound man should have a supply of DIs. I usually take about 8 of them to gigs where I'm going to do sound.
Which I like to follow with..."but why use a 57 when you can use something better that costs no more?".
