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As long as you know the difference between a P Bass and a Jazz, along with knowing that only one of them is right and the other is wrong, plus carrots and tort.
Yeah, that was just out of control. And those guys were actually pretty good when they did that that album. You know the one.
love Steve Albini...but this
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Even though I've enjoyed listening to the music, much of Yes's most popular mid and later 70's material seems somehow overdone. Not sure who's fault that is but it's as if they simply put down too many tracks and then it's hard to get a sense of genuine sonic focus and out of it.
My theory is that if they laid down a core of it live as a band in one take first then overdudbed a few minor details instead of mucking around with multi tracking in the studio so much it would have a fresher and more spontaneous feel to it. But I remember reading that Close To The Edge was recorded in all sorts of crazy fragments and then literally spliced together "collage style" for the final arrangement.
My theory is that if they laid down a core of it live as a band in one take first then overdudbed a few minor details instead of mucking around with multi tracking in the studio so much it would have a fresher and more spontaneous feel to it. But I remember reading that Close To The Edge was recorded in all sorts of crazy fragments and then literally spliced together "collage style" for the final arrangement.
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Original was B.J Thomas. No ooga chagga
I've thought much of Jackson Brown's body of work was poorly produced. You listen to those two stripped down best of albums he put out where it's guitar/piano and you appreciate his songwriting so much more.
Really ? . I thought that album was produced perfection. I use it all the time to test stereo systems.
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Almost all the new music. Too much reliance on autotune and other cheesy effects.
Pretty much all of the studio recordings of KISS and Foghat. Their live albums are great but their studio stuff lacks energy and drive. I can't stand listening to it.
Pretty much all of the studio recordings of KISS and Foghat. Their live albums are great but their studio stuff lacks energy and drive. I can't stand listening to it.
Well they were doing things in the studio that nobody else had ever done and the band recognised the shortcomings of what could be achieved with the technology at a time when it was all just being invented.
Steve Wilson's re-mixing of these albums into 5.1 is revelatory, I particularly like Close to the Edge in that format, I went out and bought more speakers just to listen to it. I went out and bought the rest of his reworkings. They are available as multi-disc packs with Blueray for 5.1 and CD/stereo versions with really extensive liner notes that explain exactly what the challenges were when the originals were recorded.
Also Relayer also remixed by Wilson into 5.1 enables far more of what is going on to become audible. Relayer came out at a similar time to the seminal Romantic Warrior by Return to Forever, and really Yes were playing something more like Jazz Fusion than rock at that point, again pushing the medium right at the bleeding edge.
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Amy Winehouse's Moodys Mood for Love. It was a great performance by Amy, and a tune that many younger listeners did not know of. Some producer stomped all over it by superimposing a springy synth snare sound on beats 2 and 4 throughout the tune at a very loud level. I wish that I could remove it. Really angers me. What was the producer thinking? Just let her do jazz, man, leave it alone. The producer f****d this up. What do you think?
I was thinking of the same band, but later in their career-Open Your Eyes where they self-produced. They needed someone to say "maybe that's a little too much."
Yeah, the "ooga chagga" version came out years after B.J Thomas' original version, which was a hit in the late 60's. The newer version was done by Blue Swede, quite similar except for the added ooga choruses ^_^. They needed to differentiate it, and had a bit of a hit with it, so I bet they're happy they did it that way. I actually kinda like it myself, as a fun little thing. We used to play it at work occasionally, and it usually brought a smile. It's just for fun.
I actually like a number of things mentioned here as ruined by production, particularly some of Phil Spector's stuff. Sure, he's a psycho, but he put out some great songs. Brian Wilson thought so, anyway, which says something. "Be My Baby", "You've Lost That Loving Feeling", etc. "Let It Be" could probably have used some fresh takes put down by the Fabs, but that wasn't happening, so it is what it is - that's not really on Spector. Still some good music there, anyway. And Glen Campbell put out some great tunes imo. Some hipper, leaner, arrangements that made more use of his instrumental skills would've been cool, but I like those things as he put them out, too. Just goes to show, different strokes ...
Iggy & the Stooges - Raw Power. They must have loved looking at all the red lights on the mixing board.
More likely due to mixing for a CD rather than a record lathe. Many albums were too trebly when the transistion took place as the people running the lathe cutting for albums who had a series of rules/work around for padding and subtracting certain frequencies as the cutter moved from the outside diameter to the inside diameter on the vinyl. Apparently some people left the compensations on when doing CD's
You mean Patience?
I would agree on GnR, but I would say everything *after* AfD. Most glaring case of full-of-themselves (or himself, rather) ever documented in Use Your Illusion I & II. Appetite was kinda perfect.
