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Soundclips: My Lakland vs. Squire vs. Warwick - which is which?

#81
don't want this to turn into another squier v fender or any other.all i'm saying is i'v owned a older fender i just went to purchase another mia jazz with cash in hand and walked out with a vm. i simply liked it better. all instruments have their following or they wouldn't be produced,but it gets old to hear people dismiss anything just because of the name. i believe there is plenty of weight to that point.
 
#82
rptrsn2 said:
don't want this to turn into another squier v fender or any other.all i'm saying is i'v owned a older fender i just went to purchase another mia jazz with cash in hand and walked out with a vm. i simply liked it better. all instruments have their following or they wouldn't be produced,but it gets old to hear people dismiss anything just because of the name. i believe there is plenty of weight to that point.
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I see what you are saying and I would agree. Squier has made a lot of progress over the last several years and are making some good instruments compared to times past. I recommend them often when the criteria justify it.
 
#83
rptrsn2 said:
point being that if you listened to alot of the gear snobs on hear with the opinion of ew its a squier everypost on this thread should have instantly recognized the lowly squier. i have owned and played more exspensive instruments and could afford to do so now if i wished,but in my opinion the new squiers are every bit as good as a bass priced a grand higher and i feel this thread just proved that!
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But....you're not really hearing a Squier there.
What we're listening to is a Basslines SJB-2's with Audere JZ3.
 
#86
vin*tone said:
But....you're not really hearing a Squier there.
What we're listening to is a Basslines SJB-2's with Audere JZ3.
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Another +1. We see this all the time here. "Check out my Squier. I've upgraded the pups, installed a new preamp, shielded the cavities, changed out the bridge, leveled the frets, yada yada. It sounds as good as any MIA or Lakland." Not totally the case here, but most any Squier will need that kind of work to approach the quality of those other basses. Cool if someone likes doing that, but certainly doesn't save much money if any.
 
#87
Eublet said:
Another +1. We see this all the time here. "Check out my Squier. I've upgraded the pups, installed a new preamp, shielded the cavities, changed out the bridge, leveled the frets, yada yada. It sounds as good as any MIA or Lakland." Not totally the case here, but most any Squier will need that kind of work to approach the quality of those other basses. Cool if someone likes doing that, but certainly doesn't save much money if any.
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I don't know about that... I've got about $400 total invested over a long peroid of time, including the original purchase price, in my SX P copy, and it has no problem hanging with my $1100 American Standard, or my whatever the going rate is Pre CBS Precision. I use the three of them interchangeably, The SX sits right in the middle of the two Fenders as far as sound quality goes. Proably closer sonicly to the Pre CBS , given the Lollar Pickup than the American Standard.

Seems I'm quite a few dollars ahead there. ;)
 
#88
I, too, didn't want to turn this into a Squier vs. X thread in terms of which is better. If you read my OP, you'll see that my original goal was to 1) get a beater bass that I can play at crappy outdoor gigs in less than desirable ambient climates, and 2) start to learn how to tinker and modify more on a cheaper bass so if I screw up, I won't cry.

I'm actually very please with the participation on this thread. I do think it perhaps demonstrates a point that it may be harder to discern between a tweaked budget bass and a higher end bass.

I have decided that I don't really like the preamp. As some people have noted earlier in the thread, it seems to lack a little mid-upper detail and sounds a little "muffled".

So, I took out the preamp and installed the stock Squier control plate. It has 500K Alpha pots. From what I have read, Alpha pots are not too shabby - sort of middle of the road for imports. I don't think I'm at the point where I want to drop in CTS's unless I think that 250K pots may be more of the sound I'm looking for.

So for your listening enjoyment, I am creating a new thread to compare following:

Lakland Skyline DJ4 with Lakland pickups stock
Squier VM 70's Jazz with Basslines SJB-2's
US G&L L-2000
EBMM Sterling
EBMM Bongo
 
#89
The biggest thing I took away from this, is that the little differences we all hear and feel when we play different basses, are probably only of interest to the player.

Sadly, when I pick up a Lakland Bob Glaub, I still sound like me, instead of Bob.

Still, I definitely play better when I'm turned on by the instrument I'm using. The inspiration factor is definitely something to consider. If you play better on a Lakland (or a Squier), then it IS better, at least for you.

But when it comes to the hardware itself, if even other players have difficulty telling what's what in a blind listening test, then it serves as a sobering reminder of how irrelevant all the money we throw at gear really is.
 
#91
steve_rolfeca said:
The biggest thing I took away from this, is that the little differences we all hear and feel when we play different basses, are probably only of interest to the player.

Sadly, when I pick up a Lakland Bob Glaub, I still sound like me, instead of Bob.

Still, I definitely play better when I'm turned on by the instrument I'm using. The inspiration factor is definitely something to consider. If you play better on a Lakland (or a Squier), then it IS better, at least for you.

But when it comes to the hardware itself, if even other players have difficulty telling what's what in a blind listening test, then it serves as a sobering reminder of how irrelevant all the money we throw at gear really is.
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Its the Wizard not the wand!

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