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Source Audio 2015 NAMM preview

#141
TheSleeve said:
Yes, each patch can be named as you choose using the editor software.

For this video, the patch names serve as "Easter Eggs." There are 12 patches in the videos; each one is named after a new product that we will introduce at the 2015 NAMM show.
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I rewatched the video and I found 11:

Reflex
Aftershock
Gemini
Kingmaker
Lunar
Vertigo
L. A. Lady
Mercury
Neuro Hub
Nemesis
Solemate

I'm not sure what I missed. That doesn't include the Switcher (not sure the official name for that?) and I'm not sure if you're counting the rebranded Neuro Hub as a "new product."
 
#145
Unemploid said:
too expensive and too many features when i just want a wah.
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It doesn't have to be the Reflex. It could be the Dual Expression Pedal, or the Hub + expression pedal of your choice. $200-300 total but that's in line with a lot of boutique wahs.

If you want something simple, "just a [X]," you're probably looking at the wrong company.
 
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#146
I'd say this, the hub+manta+ofd+expression seems expensive, but some stuff that I have seen people do with it is amazing and really has the potential of saving you a ton of money in the long run. One TB member shared a bunch of his OFD settings including one that basically gives you a volume pedal ( maybe @scotch ?). Anyway Wahs are a dime a dozen, I don't think that's the SA market.
 
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#147
As much as I love source audio stuff and how it sounds, I think it's probably entirely valid to say that

1) Using an expression with the Manta, in whatever form, takes up a lot more space than just a wah alone.
2) Many expression pedals -feel- different from the usual wah pedal format
3) It might be pretty difficult to cop a particular wah tone from the Manta + expression combination, especially with the whole too-many-knobs thing

So yeah, if those three points weigh heavier than the flexibility and power of the manta, then clearly this option isn't suitable. That said, I'd say that for a traditional player, expression + BEF might be more useful than expression + manta, since you can stick in a traditional expression pedal, and wouldn't need the built-in distortion.

nshuman said:
I'd say this, the hub+manta+ofd+expression seems expensive, but some stuff that I have seen people do with it is amazing and really has the potential of saving you a ton of money in the long run. One TB member shared a bunch of his OFD settings including one that basically gives you a volume pedal ( maybe @scotch ?). Anyway Wahs are a dime a dozen, I don't think that's the SA market.
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I've just discovered how useful volume boosts are. Last weekend I was working out some new patches for some electronic cover songs, and I found a pretty nifty setting using my OFD, MWBD2 and Manta. With each sweep of the hothand the OFD goes from 0 volume to max volume, the MWBD2 blends from clean with high cut to octave up boosting the upper octave frequencies and the manta does a low pass filter sweep. This seems to get me a much more detailed wobble sound than just applying a low pass filter. I wanted to record it but I haven't had the time to do so, it's been a busy week. I'll try to export the .scn file tomorrow or something when I've time to plug into my computer (wish I could do it from phone!)

I'm also trying to work out a patch that makes use of the volume boost trick to imitate a bowed string attack. After that patch idea I just mentioned, I realized that using the hothand is a much more versatile way to control the attack envelope (via hothand control of the pedal's "volume knob") than the volume knob on the bass itself. I'm guessing with appropriate settings on the MWBD Pro and Manta to simulate how the note timbre changes as bowing pressure increases, I should be able to get a fairly convincing bowed string sound. I suppose someone more familiar with brass instruments could apply this to create brass instrument notes too.
 
#148
Nic. said:
As much as I love source audio stuff and how it sounds, I think it's probably entirely valid to say that

1) Using an expression with the Manta, in whatever form, takes up a lot more space than just a wah alone.
2) Many expression pedals -feel- different from the usual wah pedal format
3) It might be pretty difficult to cop a particular wah tone from the Manta + expression combination, especially with the whole too-many-knobs thing

So yeah, if those three points weigh heavier than the flexibility and power of the manta, then clearly this option isn't suitable. That said, I'd say that for a traditional player, expression + BEF might be more useful than expression + manta, since you can stick in a traditional expression pedal, and wouldn't need the built-in distortion.


I've just discovered how useful volume boosts are. Last weekend I was working out some new patches for some electronic cover songs, and I found a pretty nifty setting using my OFD, MWBD2 and Manta. With each sweep of the hothand the OFD goes from 0 volume to max volume, the MWBD2 blends from clean with high cut to octave up boosting the upper octave frequencies and the manta does a low pass filter sweep. This seems to get me a much more detailed wobble sound than just applying a low pass filter. I wanted to record it but I haven't had the time to do so, it's been a busy week. I'll try to export the .scn file tomorrow or something when I've time to plug into my computer (wish I could do it from phone!)

I'm also trying to work out a patch that makes use of the volume boost trick to imitate a bowed string attack. After that patch idea I just mentioned, I realized that using the hothand is a much more versatile way to control the attack envelope (via hothand control of the pedal's "volume knob") than the volume knob on the bass itself. I'm guessing with appropriate settings on the MWBD Pro and Manta to simulate how the note timbre changes as bowing pressure increases, I should be able to get a fairly convincing bowed string sound. I suppose someone more familiar with brass instruments could apply this to create brass instrument notes too.
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Someone posted a scene that gives you a cello sound using the dimension and OFD. I hate to repost and not give the credit to the original user.

Here is a link to the scene file, you could modify it to use the expression or hot hand.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/abwxgqlulsgpf3p/cello_scene.scn?dl=0

I will edit this with the proper credit once I find it in the SA thread.

EDIT:
credit goes to @gastric

http://www.talkbass.com/threads/sou...-s-a-s-s-part-3.1056621/page-68#post-16530424
 
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#149
nshuman said:
I'd say this, the hub+manta+ofd+expression seems expensive, but some stuff that I have seen people do with it is amazing and really has the potential of saving you a ton of money in the long run. One TB member shared a bunch of his OFD settings including one that basically gives you a volume pedal ( maybe @scotch ?). Anyway Wahs are a dime a dozen, I don't think that's the SA market.
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I already created a volume pedal setting; it's easy. Just do full clean blend (and pick a lower-drive model and set to zero drive---shouldn't be necessary, but just in case), and then set expression to output level in the Hub Manager. Simple.
 
#150
@nshuman nice! I don't have a dimension, but I guess I'll see what works there and tweak. I haven't heard this patch yet, but my concern is that it isn't simply from reverb, but that the timbre itself changes. I mean you could get a passable bowed string sound from just a volume swell and reverb, but I'd like to get as close to the feel of a bowed string solo as possible. Do you know the violin classic Czardas, that's often played on double bass as well? My goal is to capture the feel of the first section of that song.
 
#151
Adamixoye said:
I already created a volume pedal setting; it's easy. Just do full clean blend (and pick a lower-drive model and set to zero drive---shouldn't be necessary, but just in case), and then set expression to output level in the Hub Manager. Simple.
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You know what would be cool with the reflex? A very simple volume mini pedal with a CV input you could place under your board. Then, you could have one of your reflex presets engage it.
 
#152
Adamixoye said:
I rewatched the video and I found 11:

Reflex
Aftershock
Gemini
Kingmaker
Lunar
Vertigo
L. A. Lady
Mercury
Neuro Hub
Nemesis
Solemate

I'm not sure what I missed. That doesn't include the Switcher (not sure the official name for that?) and I'm not sure if you're counting the rebranded Neuro Hub as a "new product."
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I had "Loop Switcher" and "Neuro Module" in the patch list as well, but I guess they didn't survive the cutting room when sat down to edit the final video. That makes a total of 13 products, but as you pointed out, the re-branded Neuro Hub isn't new, so it gets dropped from the tally.

We're working over the weekend to bring you some more sneak peeks before the NAMM show!
 
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#153
From the Source Audio lab today.

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#155
Educated guess: hub controlling the loop switches, plus the Hub/expression controlling the knobs on the MXRs via the neuro module? Forgot what it's called already.

Edit: never mind on the looper, didn't see they were all cabled up in one line.
 

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