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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#5,701
Patteh said:
In the middle of a big transition with all the pedals, but it seems very unpromising seeing how things are going at the moment...

Soleman, Hub, Hot Hand, Mercury, Kingmaker, Dimensions [Ventris once released], and Manta.

But while I'm at it, do the Kingmaker or Mercury support hot-hand yet? I attempted to connect them and can't seem to get them to detect the CC range expression value on the first step... Also, expression from the Soleman to Hub midi doesn't seem to work with any of the pedals. [edit; firmware on everything is up to date.]

Also, my Hub [silver version] totally stopped functioning. Kingmaker wouldn't get detected on the Hub-Manager, and then the Hub just stopped working at all.
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Hi Patteh,
Sorry to hear about the trouble. The Kingmaker and Mercury do currently support Hot Hand. If you press the Hub's "Scan Devices" button, do the top LED's of the Kingmaker and Mercury flash in response?

(No)
If not, there is a connection issue; connect the Kingmaker and Mercury to the Hub with different 1/8" TRRS cables. If they still don't flash in response to the "Scan Devices" button being pressed, connect them to a different port of the Hub. Let me know if you find any cables or ports to be faulty. This would also explain the Kingmaker not showing up in the Hub Manager.

(Yes)
If so, that's good.

You mentioned that your Kingmaker and Mercury are not responding to CC's sent from the Hot Hand, so you must be connecting your Hot Hand's 1/4" output to the 1/4" expression input of the Soleman, and converting it's signal to MIDI CC's, right? For your setup, I suggest using the Hot Hand's 1/8" sensor output connected to the Hub's 1/8" sensor input for the time being. This will allow you to configure multiple parameters over multiple pedals much more easily, until Neuro Desktop Editor supports all of the One Series and Soundblox 2's. You'll also have the Hot Hand's 1/4" output open for use with third party effects, and be able to use bus power from the Hub this way.

For CC control:
Press the CONTROL INPUT button so that the top LED is not lit.
Hold down the CONTROL INPUT button until the top LED flashes a couple times.
Press the CONTROL INPUT button so that the top LED is lit.
Hold down the CONTROL INPUT button until the top LED flashes constantly.
Move your Hot Hand, sending MIDI CC's from the Soleman.
Move the knob of the parameter you'd like to control.

For Hot Hand sensor output control:
Press the CONTROL INPUT button so that the top LED is not lit.
Hold down the CONTROL INPUT button until the top LED flashes a couple times.
Press the CONTROL INPUT button so that the top LED is lit.
Hold down the CONTROL INPUT button until the top LED flashes constantly.
Move your Hot Hand over your desired range of motion.
Press the Footswitch.
Move the knob(s) to your first desired value(s).
Press the Footswitch.
Move the knob(s) to your second desired value(s).
Press the Footswitch.

Please reach out to us with any updates at [email protected]. We'll get you going shortly.
 
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#5,703
I have both the Manta and the Orbital, great pedals but so much to remember at one time..:eek:, I'm slowly getting it though...
I have two questions:
1) Is there a way to demo a tweak against the bypassed tone without first saving the tweak to the preset? (I'm thinking not).
2) More importantly, concerning the Manta: I like the low pass settings because I don't lose my low end, but I like the 'single peak' (06) effect better because of the highs, thing is, I seem to lose my low end with this setting, even turning the mix totally counterclockwise.
Is there a setting I'm unaware of that retains almost all of the lows, and still, say, hear the 'twang' and high harmonics of my strings?
*Crosses fingers*
(BTW, you can chop these questions up if you have 'partial' answers)

Thanks
-Steve
 
#5,704
3rdstone said:
I have both the Manta and the Orbital, great pedals but so much to remember at one time..:eek:, I'm slowly getting it though...
I have two questions:
1) Is there a way to demo a tweak against the bypassed tone without first saving the tweak to the preset? (I'm thinking not).
2) More importantly, concerning the Manta: I like the low pass settings because I don't lose my low end, but I like the 'single peak' (06) effect better because of the highs, thing is, I seem to lose my low end with this setting, even turning the mix totally counterclockwise.
Is there a setting I'm unaware of that retains almost all of the lows, and still, say, hear the 'twang' and high harmonics of my strings?
*Crosses fingers*
(BTW, you can chop these questions up if you have 'partial' answers)

Thanks
-Steve
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1) Here are a couple options:
a) Tweak your preset and save the new version to the opposite preset location by holding down the opposite preset's footswitch. This will overwrite the preset in the opposite preset location, but you can then use the two footswitches to A-B the two sounds.
b) Use the Neuro Hub and a MIDI controller to demo changes across multiple empty scenes.
2) Try turning the mix 100% clockwise, and tweaking the depth setting. The Lo-retain feature can actually cut a preset's overall low end if it's using a filter that boosts the bass's low end. Lo-retain retains the dry signal low end, but sometimes the wet signal is beefier.
 
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Hey thanks!
Great advice on demoing, will incorporate that immediately.
I'll try the suggestions on the settings, still seems like I lose lows (preset 06) even with LoRetain, seems anemic in the lows compared to either one of the low-pass settings or the completely dry signal, but I'll keep playing with it. (And going clockwise with it)
Sort of a balancing act between frequency, depth (up) and mix.

I certainly appreciate your response though, thanks again..:thumbsup:
-Steve

*edit* Just realized you're THE Nathan Navarro who does all the killer demos...props!
 
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Picked up an aftershock, Temple audio Trio28, and Joyo PXL Live Looper switcher. Now as far as midi, I must need to program the pedals with the app then program the joyo and save in the hub. I was using a midi Moose but this is a whole new animal!! Any input would be appreciated. So here it is, Aftershock, Orbital, Manta, SA EQ, HUB, Hot Hand, Expression pedal. Pics to follow when the board is complete. Also on board will be a La Bass preamp, Meatbox, Multicomp, tuner.
 
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Quick (possibly dumb) question- do the 1 Series pedals all share similar sounds/ patches? I know the Aftershock has at least some, if not all of the sounds that the LA Lady and Kingmaker... do the Gemini, Lunar and Mercury all share the same tones? I'm looking to get a Gemini, but have found Lunars and Mercury's used for decent prices.
 

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