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Source Audio Sourcerers Society (S.A.S.S.) Pt 2

#1,021
Adamixoye said:
So, question for Manta users...it sounds like the Manta is already a pretty great synth? I know synth waveforms and sounds have some fundamental differences with dirt->filter, but this really seems like it can be possibly the greatest faux-synth pedal out there. Is the pedal still worth it if that's the main task you want it for?
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It has some very synthy sounds available.

Invalid Link Removed 5+ minutes of the same filter with only variations in drive. The goal of this clip is to simply illustrate how the addition of the drive feature can take the exact same filter and change it in lot of different ways.

You hear the dry bass through MESA Walkabout DI, then the BOSS OC-2, then a the 100% wet filter voice with NO drive (not particularly usable but is there for contrast), then variations on that same exact filter voice with ONLY changing the drive amount, drive voice, and output volume in an effort to try to provide some volume unity from patch to patch. All other parameters remain identical throughout so the only changes you are hearing are changes the totally awesome drive feature can provide.
 
#1,022
gastric said:
It has some very synthy sounds available.

Invalid Link Removed 5+ minutes of the same filter with only variations in drive. The goal of this clip is to simply illustrate how the addition of the drive feature can take the exact same filter and change it in lot of different ways.

You hear the dry bass through MESA Walkabout DI, then the BOSS OC-2, then a the 100% wet filter voice with NO drive (not particularly usable but is there for contrast), then variations on that same exact filter voice with ONLY changing the drive amount, drive voice, and output volume in an effort to try to provide some volume unity from patch to patch. All other parameters remain identical throughout so the only changes you are hearing are changes the totally awesome drive feature can provide.
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Yes, I checked this out (I need to listen to it again, I got a little distracted), it was part of the inspiration for my question.
 
#1,026
If you're talking about the midi HUB, as far as I've been told it's only IN and THRU, it has no out capabilities currently. If you want to send CC's via the Hot Hand, I think the Hot Hand USB is the only way to do that.

On the IN with the OFD you can send PC's to load scenes (presets) and you can send CC's for the following paramters: Mix, Drive, Output, Treble, Mid, Bass, Effect, On/Off and Morph (blends between the two presets stored on the pedal itself). Basically gives you CC access to each knob individually.

I hope that helps.
 
#1,027
Seems midi HUB not released yet.
No, I'm talking about midi capabilities of the OFD (and other SB2 pedals) by itself. The manual (and front panel) says that Sensor IN can accept MIDI. Also, Sensor OUT can send info thru from IN. That's why I wonder, what exactly it can accept.
So, is it only able with midi HUB?
 
#1,028
Atter said:
Seems midi HUB not released yet.
No, I'm talking about midi capabilities of the OFD (and other SB2 pedals) by itself. The manual (and front panel) says that Sensor IN can accept MIDI. Also, Sensor OUT can send info thru from IN. That's why I wonder, what exactly it can accept.
So, is it only able with midi HUB?
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The Hub is required when using MIDI and the SB2 pedal line. Hub should be on sale next week.
 
#1,031
Atter said:
Seems midi HUB not released yet.
No, I'm talking about midi capabilities of the OFD (and other SB2 pedals) by itself. The manual (and front panel) says that Sensor IN can accept MIDI. Also, Sensor OUT can send info thru from IN. That's why I wonder, what exactly it can accept.
So, is it only able with midi HUB?
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the OFD manual talks about the theory of operation before the midi hub was developed. The Manta manual has a more up-to-date description of midi connections. With the midi hub you do not daisy chain the pedals, they all connect to the hub. But daisy chaining does still share hot hand and expression pedal signals when not using the midi hub. I'm curious now if a pro pedal will 'see' hot hand signal after passing thru the midi hub and a SB2 pedal....hmmm.
 
#1,034
just ordered a manta! sold my bef pro and all my other pedals. i want to trim it down to 3 pedals. (tuner + filter + preamp). al i have left is a pitchblack and a B7k. tired of carying huge pedalboards.

based on videos i saw on youtube, manta is like dirt + filter versus bef pro which is striclty a filter that also needs some boost or dirt to push the signal especially when using the HH. nice space saver
 
#1,035
bgmww said:
i quote myself... i just want to know the differences bwtween the Manta and BEF Pro.. I own a BEF pro.
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Sorry about the delay on this one. I am on vacation this week. These are the high points off the top of my head:

BEF Pro has what Manta does not:
  1. A dedicated expression pedal input
  2. A dedicated MIDI input port
  3. a 7 band EQ
  4. 6 dedicated presets (Manta only has 2)
  5. Plastic enclosure.
  6. Active analog bypass
What the Manta has that the BEF Pro does not:
  1. Small footprint.
  2. Cast aluminum enclosure.
  3. Multi-function input and output ports (this allows the Manta to work really cleanly with the Hub, which gives all kinds of preset, MIDI, expression, and control options).
  4. Extended low pass filter performance to address customer requests from the Pro)
  5. 8 types of embedded distortion.
  6. Envelope triggers off of the clean signal when the distortion is turned on.
  7. Selectable True bypass and analog bypass.
Those are the big items. Hope it is helpful.
 
#1,036
rsmith601 said:
Sorry about the delay on this one. I am on vacation this week. These are the high points off the top of my head:

BEF Pro has what Manta does not:
  1. A dedicated expression pedal input
  2. A dedicated MIDI input port
  3. a 7 band EQ
  4. 6 dedicated presets (Manta only has 2)
  5. Plastic enclosure.
  6. Active analog bypass
What the Manta has that the BEF Pro does not:
  1. Small footprint.
  2. Cast aluminum enclosure.
  3. Multi-function input and output ports (this allows the Manta to work really cleanly with the Hub, which gives all kinds of preset, MIDI, expression, and control options).
  4. Extended low pass filter performance to address customer requests from the Pro)
  5. 8 types of embedded distortion.
  6. Envelope triggers off of the clean signal when the distortion is turned on.
  7. Selectable True bypass and analog bypass.
Those are the big items. Hope it is helpful.
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...and Hot Hand control of more parameters!!! And midi control of as many parameters as you can dream up. Demo coming soon.....

who's ready to have thier mind BLOWN?
 
#1,038
rsmith601 said:
Sorry about the delay on this one. I am on vacation this week. These are the high points off the top of my head:

BEF Pro has what Manta does not:
  1. A dedicated expression pedal input
  2. A dedicated MIDI input port
  3. a 7 band EQ
  4. 6 dedicated presets (Manta only has 2)
  5. Plastic enclosure.
  6. Active analog bypass
What the Manta has that the BEF Pro does not:
  1. Small footprint.
  2. Cast aluminum enclosure.
  3. Multi-function input and output ports (this allows the Manta to work really cleanly with the Hub, which gives all kinds of preset, MIDI, expression, and control options).
  4. Extended low pass filter performance to address customer requests from the Pro)
  5. 8 types of embedded distortion.
  6. Envelope triggers off of the clean signal when the distortion is turned on.
  7. Selectable True bypass and analog bypass.
Those are the big items. Hope it is helpful.
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Thank you! Great answer ! That's what i wanted to read...
It's a really hard decision... I think i will never use the midi functionality on the manta... But i find the drive section usefull.

Damn GAS :P
 

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