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Speaker blew. Concerns of happening again

HPFs are usually already built into amps. Adding one between your bass and amp can really help tighten everything up in the low end, and protect your speakers.

Thread titles like this one are total click-bait for the smarterer guys here, they'll be along at some point today with more info about the sciency stuff. There is a doom/drome thread as well, there is probably info there that can help you achieve what you're after.
 
Thank you everyone for your replies. So I'm thinking starting at noon again with my eq and try not to boost. Maybe I'll just try cutting back on everything to get the overall sound I want without boosting and of my heads eq...

So, first off, let me qualify my note above - I'm a big fan of GK amps, and have spent a ton of time with 700RBs. I've also damaged speakers with them, so you're in good company. :) I've also learned from that experience!

Honestly, the 4/5 string button is probably the first thing to look at. It really does add a ton of low frequency energy to your signal in the most speaker-damaging regions, and it'll exacerbate any other low-end EQ boosts that you have further up-stream. As with any of the changes that have been suggested so far in this thread, you will absolutely notice a difference in tone if you switch to 4-string mode. You'll probably miss it (you low-end junkie, you ;))! But over time you can wean yourself off of it.

With bass, and amp EQ, start with EQ at center and then try making small adjustments from there to taste. This could be another area where you might need to reprogram yourself a bit. Odds are given your taste you'll still probably wind up with bass boosted slightly on each, but hopefully overall EQ settings will end up dancing around center as opposed to settings boosted across the board. Tip - on your amp, try adding low-mids first before going straight to adjusting bass.

The last point that I'll make is about balance. Using the 5-string mode of your amp (as I do with mine) isn't inherently going to cause damage. Same with a bass boost here and there elsewhere in the chain. But put them all together, and add in low tunings, hard attacks, and loud volume, and you have a recipe for bad things to happen. Something has to give somewhere – it's just a matter of finding the right balance for your needs.

Last note, depending on how flexible you're willing to be on your tone, sometimes the only option is to add more cab so that individual speakers aren't being taxed as much to get the same amount of low end volume. Only you can determine which balance is right for you though. Good luck, and report back with your findings!
 
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You've been very helpful. Thank you. So again, I'm not very hear savvy, is A high pass filter different or the same as compression? Is it, or does it come in a stomp box? First I've heard of HPF. Sorry for the ignorance

All part of the learning curve and TalkBass is a great place to start.

A high pass filter rolls-off the lower frequencies which can be damaging to the speakers or otherwise create mud / boom...that's a gross over-simplification but you get the idea. I use the Fdeck series 3 pedal which allows me to select the frequency; there are others. Compression is a different story altogether. It's essentially the manipulation of a source's dynamic range to "fit" within the constraints (limitations) of any given system (e.g. recording, live performance, your bass rig). Here's a good read: Compressor and Audio Gear FAQ. If you understand 10% of what's presented, you're doing better than 1/2 the TBers.

Riis
 
One option I haven't seen mentioned yet is to high pass what you've got somewhere between 40 and 80hz and then add a powered sub to fill in the low end. Subs are made to reproduce the kind of lows that damage normal bass cabs.

Another thing to consider is your whole EQ scenario. Boosting 3 bands on the bass and all 4 bands on the head is just making everything louder, not really EQing. Back all those down and make up your volume with the pre on the head. You're essentially using 7 preamps to do what 1 is supposed to do. This won't make you more or less likely to blow speakers, it's just a better way to do things.
 
Everyone seems to have been helpful to you.

Some additional thoughts I have:
1. I'd set instrument EQ flat, with maybe Bass EQ a touch above flat. (1 o'clock if noon is flat)
2. I'd set PU blend 50%. Maybe a touch toward the neck PU to taste.
3. I'd consider adding a 15" cab to your rig (amp to ohms depending of course). It's More gear to lug, but it'll probably look cool onstage and actually serve a purpose of boosting your low end without EQ.
4. I'd consider a different amp. One that could handle 2ohms for a second cab and/or one that better suits your needs. Quilter Bass Block perhaps? Or how about a Mesa D800+?
5. I'd turn the horn off on the cab, if it wasn't already. You don't need it.

@Chris1985
What strings do you have installed?
 
Thank y
So, first off, let me qualify my note above - I'm a big fan of GK amps, and have spent a ton of time with 700RBs. I've also damaged speakers with them, so you're in good company. :) I've also learned from that experience!

Honestly, the 4/5 string button is probably the first thing to look at. It really does add a ton of low frequency energy to your signal in the most speaker-damaging regions, and it'll exacerbate any other low-end EQ boosts that you have further up-stream. As with any of the changes that have been suggested so far in this thread, you will absolutely notice a difference in tone if you switch to 4-string mode. You'll probably miss it (you low-end junkie, you ;))! But over time you can wean yourself off of it.

With bass, and amp EQ, start with EQ at center and then try making small adjustments from there to taste. This could be another area where you might need to reprogram yourself a bit. Odds are given your taste you'll still probably wind up with bass boosted slightly on each, but hopefully overall EQ settings will end up dancing around center as opposed to settings boosted across the board. Tip - on your amp, try adding low-mids first before going straight to adjusting bass.

The last point that I'll make is about balance. Using the 5-string mode of your amp (as I do with mine) isn't inherently going to cause damage. Same with a bass boost here and there elsewhere in the chain. But put them all together, and add in low tunings, hard attacks, and loud volume, and you have a recipe for bad things to happen. Something has to give somewhere – it's just a matter of finding the right balance for your needs.

Last note, depending on how flexible you're willing to be on your tone, sometimes the only option is to add more cab so that individual speakers aren't being taxed as much to get the same amount of low end volume. Only you can determine which balance is right for you though. Good luck, and report back with your findings!
Thank you! You're right, I am a low end junkie! Lol! You touched on something I was curious about if it would help (additional speakers). If I could preserve some of the low end, great! If not, like you and others have said, I'll get used to it. And maybe in the future when we play shows, they can help add lows with house eq
 
Everyone seems to have been helpful to you.

Some additional thoughts I have:
1. I'd set instrument EQ flat, with maybe Bass EQ a touch above flat. (1 o'clock if noon is flat)
2. I'd set PU blend 50%. Maybe a touch toward the neck PU to taste.
3. I'd consider adding a 15" cab to your rig (amp to ohms depending of course). It's More gear to lug, but it'll probably look cool onstage and actually serve a purpose of boosting your low end without EQ.
4. I'd consider a different amp. One that could handle 2ohms for a second cab and/or one that better suits your needs. Quilter Bass Block perhaps? Or how about a Mesa D800+?
5. I'd turn the horn off on the cab, if it wasn't already. You don't need it.

@Chris1985
What strings do you have installed?
I was wondering if a 15" added would help. Thanks! I have D'Addorio Super Long 6 string set. I believe low B gauge is a .135
 
1st post on this web site, tho I've read a lot of different threads from other bassists that have been very helpful to me. So thanks to everyone in advance! I have to mention: I am not a hardcore gear head nor do I have a lot of technical knowledge so dumbing down your responses would be helpful! Haha! On to the problem at hand: blew a speaker (crack and popping sound) continued playing, then...complete deadness from the cabinet. No sound

Gear: Ibanez 806SRFF, GK 700rb ii head, Ampeg SVT410HLF cab.
Pedals: MXR bass di +, Korg Pitchblack tuner, Dunlop Crybaby q95(guitar wah)

Both the head and cab were bought used. Was this maybe a fluke? I am getting it repaired under protection plan, just don't want it to happen again. We do tune very low (standard C guitars) so I tune GCFA#D#G#. I know of many bands that play this low and even lower. I'd imagine they don't keep blowing speakers and just keep replacing them? Should I add another cab to help disperse the air pushed? I know an obvious answer would be to turn low end down, but for me, seems hollow and thin. Is there a way to still get the booming lows when you dial down low end eq? Thank you for suggestions

Are you sure the problem is in the cabinet, not the amp? Or that the problem is definitely blown speakers in the cab and not something else, like a problem on the crossover board? It's probably worth checking to make sure the amp works with a different cabinet or vice versa. All of the speakers and the tweeter failing at the same time seems unlikely (not impossible but pretty rare IME).
 
I was wondering if a 15" added would help. Thanks! I have D'Addorio Super Long 6 string set. I believe low B gauge is a .135
Strings seem fine.

I agree adding a 15" will probably be less dramatic than changing the amp head. So if you're not attached to the amp head I'd start there. Maybe Markbass is worth a try in addition to the other two I mentioned
 
I don't think any standard 1x15 will :

A) add anything helpful to a 410HLF

B) be able to keep up with a 410HLF

C) supply better lows than a 410HLF

D) play nice and not fight with a 410HLF

Yeah... you'd probably have to look for something much bigger and/or more expensive to replace your current cab with for significant gains.

Massive lows aren't really my thing anymore (even though I use a Fearless cab to be safe), so I'm no expert on the types of gear that would fit that bill aside from some of the expensive cabs using those super high excursion drivers. Others can provide better recommendations on that front, suffice to say that adding any regular ole 15" in hopes of getting more lows doesn't make a lot of sense... and couldn't be added to your current setup given your current amp.
 
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I'm gonna back-pedal for a moment...

Although I mentioned HPF's and compressors in a previous post, there's no pressing urgency to drop coin on outboard devices, new amps, enclosures, etc. There's no reason your existing bass, amp, and enclosure can't "play nicely" together....any embellishments can wait. IOW, I'm of the impression we're dealing with application errors and not equipment deficits.

Your wallet will thank you!

Riis
 
Are you sure the problem is in the cabinet, not the amp? Or that the problem is definitely blown speakers in the cab and not something else, like a problem on the crossover board? It's probably worth checking to make sure the amp works with a different cabinet or vice versa. All of the speakers and the tweeter failing at the same time seems unlikely (not impossible but pretty rare IME).
I also called Ampeg and they wondered the same thing (crossover board or something electronic). Almost verbatim what you just said. Lol! At 1st I got the popping and crackling in the top left speaker (at least it sounded like it was coming from that speaker to me). Then, total sound loss. As if someone pulled the plug. I sent it off to repair so hopefully they can tell me what the problem was so maybe I can avoid it in the future
 
There's no reason your existing bass, amp, and enclosure can't "play nicely" together....any embellishments can wait. IOW, I'm of the impression we're dealing with application errors and not equipment deficits.

I 100% agree with this as well. You have good gear, and you should be able to get it working in a way where hopefully not too many creative compromises are in order. Good luck!
 
I'm gonna back-pedal for a moment...

Although I mentioned HPF's and compressors in a previous post, there's no pressing urgency to drop coin on outboard devices, new amps, enclosures, etc. There's no reason your existing bass, amp, and enclosure can't "play nicely" together....any embellishments can wait. IOW, I'm of the impression we're dealing with application errors and not equipment deficits.

Your wallet will thank you!

Riis
That's what I was hoping to hear! Lol! I called Ampeg, they had mention maybe the crossover in the speaker cabinet failed. He also said a general rule of thumb, I know someone mentioned it before in this thread, that you head should be rated at higher wattage or power than your cabinet. The 700 rb i i is rated at 480 watts and the Ampeg is rated at 500. But I definitely like the idea of not buying anything additional. I thought I did enough research before buying but I'm fairly new to the bass spectrum. Seems a LOT more tricky than the guitar realm! I've been a guitarist in bands for years playing downtuned almost by default. Love me some death metal! Never had a problem with any guitar rig. Except my Marshall solidstate head frying. In its defense, I had it for over 10 years
 
HPFs are usually already built into amps. Adding one between your bass and amp can really help tighten everything up in the low end, and protect your speakers.

Thread titles like this one are total click-bait for the smarterer guys here, they'll be along at some point today with more info about the sciency stuff. There is a doom/drome thread as well, there is probably info there that can help you achieve what you're after.
Yeah. My pea brain will fry like my speakers when I hear the tech jargon