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Speakers Vertically Stacked

johnsonabq said:
e.g. The TC Electronic speaker cabs have their speakers lined up vertically and I've heard there are advantages to this. What are they and how does that work? I think they call it line array?
Thanks!

IMO/IME, the main advantage is height, you get the speakers closer to ear level.

Many will point out improved mid dispersion, which I'm sure is correct and valid. Personally I don't see (or hear) any vast improvements, but YMMV.
 
Not a line array but, stacking the speakers vertically spreads the sound wider horizontally. Seems a little counter-intuitive at first but that's how it works. You'll hear more of of your mids and topend when your off at an angle to the rig instead of straight in front of it. When your rig is playing the room, it means more even sound reaches the ears of more of your audience instead of having a "hotspot" for the people on center with the speakers and muddier sound off to the sides.

Search "dispersion" for more reading on the subject.
 
Line arrays require a certain length for each wavelength for it to couple together into an array... You won't have that in a line of speakers 4 feet long going down to 50hz. But it helps with dispersion, making more of your mids and highs even horizontally, rather than having bright spots and dead spots depending on where you stand.
 
how does that work?
The wider the source the narrower the angle of dispersion. The ideal speaker would be about an inch wide and thirty feet high. That's not all that practical, though it has been done. The closer you can get to that ideal configuration the better. As soon as you put two drivers side by side you're headed in the wrong direction.
 
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The ideal speaker would be about an inch wide and thirty feet high.

This is essentially what a line array does... Mid and high freq drivers are stacked vertically with minimal space between them. Once they're close enough to each other the "sound" begins to see them as one very narrow tall speaker. This is also dependant on the size of the wave being created, bigger waves needing longer array. That's why a 410 cab can sound boomy off axis... The lows are well dispersed regardless, but it creates a beam of mids and highs right down the center.

So yeah, perfection would be an array of full range cardioid drivers 65 feet long... but we make do with stacking 2 210 cabs instead :p
 
This is an interesting sonic phenomena. So, If I stack vertically my RS210 and RS212 my amp will be more audible when off axis?

Your midrange and treble will be, as those frequencies are more directional. This is one thing cone size does affect. The smaller the sound source, The higher in frequency it can play before it starts to "beam", meaning putting those higher frequencies out in a narrow beam on center with the speaker rather than spreading them widely. Two 10's side by side act like one big 20" speaker, it can't go very high before it starts to beam. Two 10's stacked vertically are still 10" wide, and thus can play higher before beaming. The vertical stack also narrows vertical dispersion, which helps too. More sound focused at the audience and less at the floor and ceiling. Always choose greater horizontal dispersion at the expense of vertical. Audiences may however wide you have room for, but the difference in ear level between a tall person standing and a short person sitting might still only be 4 ft.
 
We can't have a thread on line arrays without these pics...
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Ya, I'm very much down with the vertical array. I'm also down with cabs designed to minimize beaming and maximize dispersion. But beaming really doesn't bother me like other aspects of this scientific stuff. It's the one thing that doesn't bother me. Bothers me in a PA, doesn't bother me in a bass or guitar cab.