What preamp was used prior to the 2002 year model NS-2J? I see 2 options but neither are the HAZ pre's. Did they use the HAZ up to 2002 then change to the OBP or 9V Spector or is that actually the HAZ and I'm
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Spector Club - Part 9
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Thanks. Good to know. I'm pretty sure I'm making the right choice. I love my Stingray 20th anniversary SR5 HH though. Looking forward to the Euro 5LX
Anybody else make this switch?
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Per PJ yesterday and our convo (and I made a point to ask him this haha!) is that they call the HAZ-Labs pre (which is just an OEM part made specifically for Spector, per Stuart's original design/spec in the 70's) the 9V or 18V Spector active circuit.
The Tonepump is it's own deal, as well as the Aguilar, and various EMG pre's they've used over the years.
IIRC back in the Brooklyn days they actually did say HAZ-Labs on the pre but nowadays I don't think they do. But HAZ-Labs = Spector active circuit.
The Tonepump is it's own deal, as well as the Aguilar, and various EMG pre's they've used over the years.
IIRC back in the Brooklyn days they actually did say HAZ-Labs on the pre but nowadays I don't think they do. But HAZ-Labs = Spector active circuit.
Here's my NS-2J, I guess it would be an "A". Made in Woodstock in 1998, serial # 006. Ash body, pau ferro fretboard. EMG preamp. Extremely lightweight and punchy, although the EMG preamp doesn't have the growl of the HAZ.
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Nice!
I think Gary Tallent rocked/rocks those, but in black. I remember reading the ads in BP Mag for them.
I think Gary Tallent rocked/rocks those, but in black. I remember reading the ads in BP Mag for them.
OK, so a 9v Spector active Pre is same the as the HAZ-lab pre?
The battery is in a pop-up holder next to the cavity and the EMG or OBP has the battery inside the cavity?
The battery is in a pop-up holder next to the cavity and the EMG or OBP has the battery inside the cavity?
With the 9v USA "haz" preamplifier the battery fits in the main control cavity. There's a little clip that is mounted right on the circuit board. The 18v USA preamp might be different.
^^^ ity bity picture, sorry
any bigger and it gets blurry. but see the crown inlays and JJ pups, 9v battery door....
any bigger and it gets blurry. but see the crown inlays and JJ pups, 9v battery door....
JPSBassist said:Here's a video of Carlton jamming with it. This is a 2000's model USA NS-2JA.
YouTube - Vibe "Do I?" 2010
The Haz is the key. Listen to how dirty/punchy/growly this bass sounds.
I've got to have one of these in a neck-thru.
Man! That's one bad punchy Spector! I love the tone!
rockstarbassist said:I don't want to- because then I'll want one.
You must...listen...you must...listen
shakey_slim said:
That's gorgeous! What an awesome wood grain!
Tracebassplayer said:
Well my 85' Kramer NS-2A has a HazLab and the 9v bat is inside the pre-amp compartment.
Since we are talking pre's can someone tell me by this picture what pre this is in my NS-95 SSD?
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Tracebassplayer said:
The USA circuit for 9V should be in the cavity. My NS5XL is 18V and has it's own 2-screw cavity separate from the main preamp compartment.
I contacted SPECTOR customer service about mine, and PJ says it's an EMG BTS pre. It's actually attatched to one of the pots. Hope this helps.
bobunit said:
No this has EMG HZs
abstractart06 said:
That's cool, because it sure sounds different from the Euro Rebop 5 I had. Is yours a SSD too?
What preamp was used prior to the 2002 year model NS-2J? I see 2 options but neither are the HAZ pre's. Did they use the HAZ up to 2002 then change to the OBP or 9V Spector or is that actually the HAZ and I'm
Sorry. PJ gets on to me about this all the time.
HazLabs is the contractor in NJ who developed the 9v Spector Tone Circuit for Stuart. The same guy has been making them since 1979.
In the past decade PJ has wanted to move away from calling the 9v and 18v USA Circuits "Haz" circuits because the design and the sound were developed for Spector and although HazLabs makes other tone circuits for other companies, he does not reproduce the USA Spector circuits for anyone but Spector. So they are really "Spector USA Circuits".
Many older Spector owners came to know the circuits by their manufacturer and it sort of stuck. "Haz" is easier to say than "USA Spector Circuit". I guess.
So the short answer, sorry for all the extra detail stuff... is that the 9v USA Circuit is the same thing as the HazLabs circuit. And that has been the only tone circuit used in the USA NS-2 since 1979.
The 18v version was developed during the early 1990's when Stuart restarted Spector as SSD (Stuart Spector Design, LTD) after Kramer failed.
This is when the NS-4, NS-5XL and NS-6XL switched from being powered by the 9v USA Circuit to the 18v Circuits.
Before that... from the early 1980's pretty much all USA Spectors used the HazLabs made 9v USA Circuits.
During Kramer's ownership of SPECTOR they developed Japanese-Made and Korean-Made copies of the HazLabs design. Which is why the NS-2A guitars sounded so good. The USA Ciruit copies were pretty good.
Yes. The original NS-2 circuit was designed to Stuart's specs back in the late 1970's. HazLabs is simply the vendor that makes the circuits for SPECTOR.
They no longer say "HazLabs" on them. The ONLY design change with the board since 1979 is the pup connectors. They've been upgraded so you can plug in the newer style EMG pups. That's about it. Solid-state and to me the heart of the NS-2's unique sound.
Yes. The battery clip is on the board. As are the pots. Everything is on the board.
The 18v systems have three connected pots via a board and the power (batteries) are routed into a separate compartment just forward of the smaller (smaller than the NS-2 and Euro models) control compartment.
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OK, What NS2J is this?
It says NS-2J Walnut burl matte finish, JJ pups, TN <-?what's that
That's one of the Special Edition Models (SE-I).
The info on those is here:
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They are beautiful. I had one in my studio after NAMM for photos. There were only 14 made and they all have serial numbers from 1 to 14. That's one of the cool things about the SE models. You're actually getting something that has a special number series to set it apart from the standard production models.
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