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Squier Classic Vibe Club

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#721
fingers&thumbs said:
Haha, thanks! To be quite honest - not much difference at all. Maybe in the "quality" of the tone rolloff. I mean they're not identically the same but they're both nice pickups. A new set of strings would (and did) make a far bigger difference than changing the pickup. But I wanted to treat my CV with posh electronics! :hyper:

But the 62RI scratchplate is definitely worth it to replace the photo of a sicked up kebab... so are the 62 knobs, but you also need to install CTS pots for them to fit the shafts.
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did you upgrade the capacitor when you upgraded the pots? I'm debating whether I want to or not, I usually like to put nicer caps in all my instruments, but this one is very useable stock (but I always wonder "what if...")
 
#723
dave_bass5 said:
Can i ask if you guys upgrade the pots and cap for a better (or different) tone, or just to make it all a bit more reliable?
Ive upgraded most things on my basses over the years but never the pots or cap.
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I find with cheap caps (any stock cap on any guitar/bass I've owned) that the more you roll off the tone, the more the signal loses quality/definition. Nicer caps give you a more even response. With pots, I like to change them to different values, more powerful pickups sound better (IMO) with higher valued pots. I should note that I am new to bass, and most of my modding experience is with guitars
 
#724
benjammin420 said:
I find with cheap caps (any stock cap on any guitar/bass I've owned) that the more you roll off the tone, the more the signal loses quality/definition. Nicer caps give you a more even response. With pots, I like to change them to different values, more powerful pickups sound better (IMO) with higher valued pots. I should note that I am new to bass, and most of my modding experience is with guitars
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Thanks for the reply. Maybe ill have a go at changing them on my when i get my CV P sorted.
I plan on putting a Wizard Thumper pup in the P as soon as i can but never really thought about the rest of the electrics before.
 
#725
benjammin420 said:
did you upgrade the capacitor when you upgraded the pots? I'm debating whether I want to or not, I usually like to put nicer caps in all my instruments, but this one is very useable stock (but I always wonder "what if...")
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Hi, yes I did, this was the kit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380259121967&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I think the rolled off tone with this kit is pretty cool, but I didn't really compare the stock rolled off tone I'm afraid. "What if" is indeed the question but for $15 all in I don't think it's worth hesitating!
 
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#726
dave_bass5 said:
Thanks for the reply. Maybe ill have a go at changing them on my when i get my CV P sorted.
I plan on putting a Wizard Thumper pup in the P as soon as i can but never really thought about the rest of the electrics before.
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the best thing to do is try it for yourself, only you know what you like, plus its a cheap, easy to do, and 100% reversible. I would suggest experimenting with pots and caps before a new pickup, new electronics will no doubt improve the sound of the stock pickup (and if you swap pickups, but not the controls, any detriment they may be causing will still be affecting the signal)
 
#727
Thanks for the advice.
To be honest im pretty lazy when it come to this sort of thing so upgrading the pup seems to be the easiest first upgrade.
Saying that, im not just doing it because i dont like the CV P, in fact ive never heard one, but i really love the Thumper tone and i know what to expect. If its still not quite right then ill have a go at the rest.

And then ill probably put my CV Jazz neck on it (or maybe my HW-one as that doesn't say Squier ;-)
 
#728
dave_bass5 said:
Thanks for the advice.
To be honest im pretty lazy when it come to this sort of thing so upgrading the pup seems to be the easiest first upgrade.
Saying that, im not just doing it because i dont like the CV P, in fact ive never heard one, but i really love the Thumper tone and i know what to expect. If its still not quite right then ill have a go at the rest.

And then ill probably put my CV Jazz neck on it (or maybe my HW-one as that doesn't say Squier ;-)
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Hi Dave, TBH I'd say the easiest thing is to do it all at once... if you're gonna do the pup I'd do the pots at the same time, save yourself the hassle of taking it apart twice. Once you see the tiny Squier pots you'll wish you had some CTS there to replace them with ;-)
 
#729
Has anyone besides me noticed the slightly wider string spacing of the heavier bridge that comes with the Fiesta Red CV 60's P bass? I'm seriously considering buying a standard Fender bridge and replacing it not only for comfort but to also bring it closer to a 60's P bass. I replaced the PUPs and electronics, may as well go all the way.
 
#730
zenrad said:
Has anyone besides me noticed the slightly wider string spacing of the heavier bridge that comes with the Fiesta Red CV 60's P bass? I'm seriously considering buying a standard Fender bridge and replacing it not only for comfort but to also bring it closer to a 60's P bass. I replaced the PUPs and electronics, may as well go all the way.
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Well, the published specs don't specify the string spacing, but other than adding brass saddles, I would be very surprised to learn that a wider string spacing is intended for the Fiesta Red model over the Sonic Blue one. I could see there being slight variations from bass to bass; but between the two colors of basses? That's harder to swallow.

I could be proven wrong, of course.
 
#731
zenrad said:
Has anyone besides me noticed the slightly wider string spacing of the heavier bridge that comes with the Fiesta Red CV 60's P bass? I'm seriously considering buying a standard Fender bridge and replacing it not only for comfort but to also bring it closer to a 60's P bass. I replaced the PUPs and electronics, may as well go all the way.
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I'm thinking the same, although I do like the bridge it's not very 60's!

But I'm worried (and I suspect) the screw holes won't line up. Has anyone done this already?
 
#732
selowitch said:
Well, the published specs don't specify the string spacing, but other than adding brass saddles, I would be very surprised to learn that a wider string spacing is intended for the Fiesta Red model over the Sonic Blue one. I could see there being slight variations from bass to bass; but between the two colors of basses? That's harder to swallow.

I could be proven wrong, of course.
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The strings are 1/32" farther apart than a standard bridge, making the entire distance 1/8" wider. I only saw this bridge on the Fiesta Red ones, the Sonic Blue basses I saw had the standard bridge, but they may have changed that with the newer ones. The bass doesn't need the wider spacing, in fact, the strings line up over the pole pieces better with the standard spacing.
 
#733
fingers&thumbs said:
I'm thinking the same, although I do like the bridge it's not very 60's!

But I'm worried (and I suspect) the screw holes won't line up. Has anyone done this already?
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I doubt that the holes will line up, but if I have to drill and dowel the existing holes and redrill then that's fine.

I'm trying to decide between the threaded rod vintage style or the newer version with slotted saddles. The threaded saddles would make it very 60's, I'm leaning toward getting that one.
 
#735
zenrad said:
I doubt that the holes will line up, but if I have to drill and dowel the existing holes and redrill then that's fine.

I'm trying to decide between the threaded rod vintage style or the newer version with slotted saddles. The threaded saddles would make it very 60's, I'm leaning toward getting that one.
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I for one would like to see the difference in those two saddle-types if anyone has a pix.
 
#736
My sonic blue CV Precision has the 1/8" wider string spacing. I'd be willing to bet the CV Jazzes have the wider spacing too. The word on the street is that the screw holes on the CV bridges are slightly non-standard so you'd have to dowel and drill to replace it.

I can't wait for Hollywood to make "Squier CV: The Movie" so that we can see the back story of how certain things in the CV series, like the nonstandard bridge, came to be.

BTW, if you search eBay under "P bass wiring kit" on some nice kits will pop up that have the correct value pots, an orange drop tone capacitor, and cloth covered wire all bundled together for you. They're a little more expensive than if you buy the parts separately but it saves you a little bit of trouble versus rounding them up yourself.
 
#737
My red CV P has finally been order and will be here on wed. I'm hoping it wil not have any issues as I want to use it this weekend.
I still think it will sit at home more than gig as I really love my HW-1 but im really looking forward to playing it.

All this talk of the strong spacing has got me worried as I will already be striglong with a P neck. I'm sure it will be the same as my CVJ at the bridge though, I'll measure them when I get it.
 
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