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Squier Classic Vibe/Fender Player Series..?

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jd56hawk said:
Amazing how some bassists are still unaware of Bacchus.
Pretty sure Fender won't make you a Jazz bass like this!
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I am pretty sure FMIC will list it USD 6400 if they made it.

In this day, there are still lot player
blindly pursue to one brand power just like what I did while I start learning play bass in earlier day.
Time change and the game change on this current day.

Those Sire, Harley Benton , Bachuss has great OEM manufacture for their entry line, but, FMIC just screw their head to rebranded their old stuff , increase price tag, large price gap on their line but small difference in quality with zero technology surprise.
They only make money with the glory of Master Leo Fender.

Apologies that my words are as hard as the Thor's storm breaker to some die hard member.
 
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andare said:
Either I'm blind or Bacchus doesn't make P basses. Weird
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They're big on jazz basses, but they make some P basses, too.
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jd56hawk said:
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Since the BJB1RSM has really good in QC and solid Roasted Maple neck, i email to Bacchus Japan regard when the BPB-1RSM will announce. They reply me that they has no such plan on this moment.

Here is the step up model than BPB-1R, the BPB-700,



an the BPB-700 Active.



Only BPB-1R still in product line, others P include 50 style Pbass all discontinued.
 
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#52
gg22 said:
Fender MIM for me out of those two, I've seen to many Indonesian Squiers with warped necks, and Chinese Squiers are not available anymore. Looks like Fender realized their mistake with "too good for the money" Chinese Squiers and promptly fixed it.

And although you can find a great Squier bass, don't forget they are cheaper by design - lesser quality woods, parts, electronics, etc.
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Yesterday I went into a GC to see what was there and the American Fenders were high up and out of reach in a separate section and the bass section had El Cheapo's with the Fender MIM Player basses the top of the line in that section so I played a few.

I don't own any MIM's so was surprised to see how light and cheap they felt and the electronics were disposable, as was the bridge with no bulk to it, with components, screws etc thin and flimsy. Junk. Then I picked up a blue Squier VM model P on the end of the rack.

Wonderful looking, feeling and playing and also sounded very good and more MIA like than the MIM's there.
These basses are much better than what I started out with and I would recommend them to anyone and, I am not a Fender guy either.
 
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Aussie Player said:
Yesterday I went into a GC to see what was there and the American Fenders were high up and out of reach in a separate section and the bass section had El Cheapo's with the Fender MIM Player basses the top of the line in that section so I played a few.

I don't own any MIM's so was surprised to see how light and cheap they felt and the electronics were disposable, as was the bridge with no bulk to it, with components, screws etc thin and flimsy. Junk. Then I picked up a blue Squier VM model P on the end of the rack.

Wonderful looking, feeling and playing and also sounded very good and more MIA like than the MIM's there.
These basses are much better than what I started out with and I would recommend them to anyone and, I am not a Fender guy either.
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I don't know what MIMs you saw that had worse hardware than lower tier Squiers. Squiers have soft screws that strip easily. Weird.
 
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I played 2 different P's and a Jazz and they all were very cheap feeling and the pick ups were toneless compared to the Indonesia Squier. Also tried a Musicman in the same price range and it too felt cheap like the MIM's. The wood used seemed very lightweight compared the toe USA models I am used to.

The wood density was obviously less as these basses, all in fact are very light which is great for a beginner but it it noticeable to a long time bass player. The finish on all was pretty good but the feel was very different and as of yesterday, I had to favor the Squier as the better feeling and sounding bass.

I play USA Fenders, Alembic, Warwick and vintage and newer Gibson's so it is not my market but there it is.
 
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Yahboy said:
I am pretty sure FMIC will list it USD 6400 if they made it.

In this day, there are still lot player
blindly pursue to one brand power just like what I did while I start learning play bass in earlier day.
Time change and the game change on this current day.

Those Sire, Harley Benton , Bachuss has great OEM manufacture for their entry line, but, FMIC just screw their head to rebranded their old stuff , increase price tag, large price gap on their line but small difference in quality with zero technology surprise.
They only make money with the glory of Master Leo Fender.

Apologies that my words are as hard as the Thor's storm breaker to some die hard member.
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I think there is more to it than that.........
I saw an interview with a Fender Master builder from the custom shop and he stated that there are multi levels of wood used in the various fenders.
Custom Shop - Hand selected 1 or 2 piece bodies only.
USA Fenders - 2 or 3 piece bodies, Usually you see the 2 piece in the clearer finishes.
MIM- Many pieces, can be 5 or 6 and you clearly see this on the MIM shop tour video's on you tube.
Squier - Has varied a lot through the years as I have seen multi-layer plywood though to 6 piece bodies.

The hardware varies too as the USA is heavier gauge metal and finished more uniformly as well as higher grade pickups. The necks appear to be different grades where they may still have the same name but there is a weight and density factor that is very noticeable.

I agree that a player should keep and open mind but that means you have to prioritize wheat you want or need in a bass. For me it is feel first because hardware and tone can be tweaked with mods. O have put American Standard pickups in to a pair of Squiers in the past, both 5 string Jazz basses and both came alive and sounded so much better. One also had better feel than my USA Fender Jazz so I traded it off and kept the Squier though I also upgraded the bridge to the USA model to assist the intonation so that also made a difference.

There is a lot to be said for upgrading a cheaper bass as long as it feels good to play and you like the basic construction and finish.
 
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Aussie Player said:
I played 2 different P's and a Jazz and they all were very cheap feeling and the pick ups were toneless compared to the Indonesia Squier. Also tried a Musicman in the same price range and it too felt cheap like the MIM's. The wood used seemed very lightweight compared the toe USA models I am used to.

The wood density was obviously less as these basses, all in fact are very light which is great for a beginner but it it noticeable to a long time bass player. The finish on all was pretty good but the feel was very different and as of yesterday, I had to favor the Squier as the better feeling and sounding bass.

I play USA Fenders, Alembic, Warwick and vintage and newer Gibson's so it is not my market but there it is.
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"it feels better" and "it sounds better" are too subjective to be meaningful. When I give an assessment of an instrument I stick to hard, measurable facts.
 
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Aussie Player said:
I think there is more to it than that.........
I saw an interview with a Fender Master builder from the custom shop and he stated that there are multi levels of wood used in the various fenders.
Custom Shop - Hand selected 1 or 2 piece bodies only.
USA Fenders - 2 or 3 piece bodies, Usually you see the 2 piece in the clearer finishes.
MIM- Many pieces, can be 5 or 6 and you clearly see this on the MIM shop tour video's on you tube.
Squier - Has varied a lot through the years as I have seen multi-layer plywood though to 6 piece bodies.

The hardware varies too as the USA is heavier gauge metal and finished more uniformly as well as higher grade pickups. The necks appear to be different grades where they may still have the same name but there is a weight and density factor that is very noticeable.

I agree that a player should keep and open mind but that means you have to prioritize wheat you want or need in a bass. For me it is feel first because hardware and tone can be tweaked with mods. O have put American Standard pickups in to a pair of Squiers in the past, both 5 string Jazz basses and both came alive and sounded so much better. One also had better feel than my USA Fender Jazz so I traded it off and kept the Squier though I also upgraded the bridge to the USA model to assist the intonation so that also made a difference.

There is a lot to be said for upgrading a cheaper bass as long as it feels good to play and you like the basic construction and finish.
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Same process work on Bacchus high end bass too, but they dint make more noise to media like Fender did.

Regards the hardware, there are Gotoh and Hipshot play in the market, don't fool people that Fender hardware are better than both brand high-end stuff, and both has fair price .
No much magic in CTS pot, it just a pot, little better quality than Alpha pot.
Those relic metal hardware actually you can DIY at home , sand or steel wool is a good start.
Cloth wire? Haha.... Actually no much different compare to normal wire, but great for retro.
 
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I have both American Pro Jazz and Fender Player series P.
The Player series P is better than Fender MIM Standard as far as feel and playability. Yes, I put a Custom Shop 62 P pickup in it and is a great bass now. Even the American Pro I changed the pickups to Aero Jazz pickups. I have found many example of Fender stock pickups in both the American and Standard series somewhat lacking
 

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