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Squier Vintage Modified 70s J-Bass [HELP!]

Gord_oh

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I am a fairly new bass player, about a year, but am interested and committed to perfecting the art. I play an Ibanez GSR200, a simple starter bass a friend sold me cheap. I am looking at the Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz Bass. So far the reviews on it have been more than comforting, I am ready to go and pick it up.

I have a few questions, preferably someone who knows the bass.
1. Worth the price?
2. Should I upgrade if I choose this bass? (Bridge, hardware, truss rod, etc.)
3. Save a couple hundred more dollars and upgrade to a Standard Fender J-Bass?

If anyone can answer these and maybe even give me a little more insight on this bass, I would be more than grateful!

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I'll let you know my impressions on this bass in a few days. I just won a Vintage Modified on ebay sunday night. It came with a Fender Deluxe gig bag and an uninstalled Gotoh bridge. I got the whole package for $250. It should get here on Thursday! I'll let you know how it compares to my Geddy.

I plan to install the bridge within a few days. The next mod will be to replace the bridge pickup with an alnico Basslines Music Man pickup wired to a coil tapping switch.

I've been wanting to do this to a jazz bass for some time and I think the Vintage Modified will be a good foundation for a hot rodded bass.

Later down the road I might replace the neck pickup with another MM pickup.
 
I am a fairly new bass player, about a year, but am interested and committed to perfecting the art. I play an Ibanez GSR200, a simple starter bass a friend sold me cheap. I am looking at the Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz Bass. So far the reviews on it have been more than comforting, I am ready to go and pick it up.

I have a few questions, preferably someone who knows the bass.
1. Worth the price?
2. Should I upgrade if I choose this bass? (Bridge, hardware, truss rod, etc.)
3. Save a couple hundred more dollars and upgrade to a Standard Fender J-Bass?

If anyone can answer these and maybe even give me a little more insight on this bass, I would be more than grateful!

:help:Gord_oh:help:
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If you can afford to wait, the Standard MIM series Jazz is a nice bass. Have you looked at the Squire Classic Vibe series? Very nice bass for 299.00. I did a review here

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482415
 
1. Worth the price?
2. Should I upgrade if I choose this bass? (Bridge, hardware, truss rod, etc.)
3. Save a couple hundred more dollars and upgrade to a Standard Fender J-Bass?

1.- hell yeah its too cheap for bein so good
2.- you could upgrade bridge if you want more sustain, buy you will have the same problem with most fender style basses
3.- the MIM? noo!, the MIA? then yes
 
I've had mine a couple of months. I played every bass on the wall the day I bought it, including a $1200 or $1300 Fender. I'm not going to say the VM is as good, folks would think I was crazy. But I will say the VM is the only bass I kept coming back to, over and over. I was not shopping for a bass, just killing time. So I wasn't looking at price tags or even particularly looking at names on head stocks. That is, until I decided I wanted the VM, then I started checking details.
To answer your questions:
1) To me it definitely is.
2) I've not been tempted to upgrade anything, I see no reason to.
3) I wouldn't.
 
although I have read overwhelmingly positive reviews on here concerning this bass, my own experience with it has been less than great. I think for the price range, putting in an extra few bucks and getting an MIM standard, whether used or new, would be a big upgrade, as i feel the MIM standards are 9 times out of 10 clearly superior in terms of hardware, feel, playability, overall finish and sound.

just my .02
 
1) Yes
2) I don't know. You should get one and play it first.
3) I don't know how bad your present bass is. Also, play the 2 J's back-to-back. My VM P felt much better to me than the MIM P next to it. Although I'm sure it could have gone the other way as well, depending on the basses. However, the Squier does have the cool 70's styling.
 
I buoght one of these. It was inexpensive (<$300), and I didn't have a Jazz yet, so I figured it was a good experiment to see if I liked Jazz basses. Also, I love the maple neck/black block combo.

I will say, it is likely worth the $250-300 street price, but not much more. There are issues with the bass.
- The tuners on mine are abysmal. Terrible. Crappy. Useless. For a kid or a first bass they are OK, but not much beyond that.
- The fretboard needed some work. Anything above the 12th fret and it was roll-the-bones time to see if it buzzed or not.
- The neck is finished nicely, but there were significant pits where the skunkstripe touches maple. Very distracting on the thumb.
- The neck pocket (I think) was routed too deep, resulting in a neck that sits a little too deep in the body.
- The pickups were acceptable, not great, by acceptable.
- Bad quality control however showed that the builders stripped the pickup mounting screws with thier auto-drivers and all the metal flakings were stuck to the pickup poles. Not great. HINT: ball up some masking tape and "dab" the pickup poles. The metal flakes stick to the tape and come right off.


However, since my buying decision was that this was an experiment, I decided to try out things I wouldn't dare try on a $1200 bass. I love tinkering, so I bought some stuff from Stew-Mac and went to town, knowing if I "screwed it up" I wouldn't be out that much money.

- I swapped out the bridge for a BadAss II bridge. Not needed, but it was fun. Easy to do as well.
- I pulled off the crontrol plate and pickguard and copper lined the cavities. More fun and lessons learned.
- I replaced the control plate with an Audere preamp. Not so much fun. I had to chisel away a little wood to make space for the switch, and the battery just doesn't want to cooperate in the cramped cavity. It works, though very tight.
- I swapped out the pickups for Nordstrand Split Vintage pickups. These and the Audere sound SO sweet.
- I painstakingly localized the high frets and went to work with a fret file and polishing paper. Little or no buzzing anywhere. Stupid low action. :-)
- I used Zap-A-Cap glue and micro polish paper to fill the voids on the back of the neck.
- I pulled the neck off, and shimmed the neck pocket (a fair amout) so I could actually have some string height adjustment with the new bridge.
- I pulled the old tuners off and installed new Hipshot Ultralights.
- I installed a new rolling string retainer instead of the vintage button.

Yes, I know, I spent more money on "upgrades" than the entire bass. But remember, this was a experimental project, and all the parts can be pulled off and moved to another bass at anytime. Or sold.

The result, it is an amazingly good playing bass. Much better than when I first bought it. It plays fantastically, and sounds huge, due to the very nice pickups and preamp of course. The maple body is quite nice, even has flame in it. Some VM70s I have seen in the store have terrible bodies, so it is luck of the draw. The neck is slim and smooth, much like a Geddy Lee neck, but without the heavy gloss finish. Since the headstock says Squier on it, I don't worry about anyone stealing it either :-)

My conclusion. If you need a cheap bass, play a couple, and pick the best one. You can easily get a dud. But then, you could also get a good playing one as well. Don't expect much from the hardware. If you can put up with that part, it should serve you well. It is not a $1000 bass at a bargin. It's a bargin bass. Period. But not a half bad one.

If nothing else, change the strings.
 
I own the White Precision, but since it is from the same line I guess they're likely the same.
1. De price is good, it's a nice bass, needs a little setup to your preference but that is simple and you can do that yourself.
2. I myself upgraded allmost every part of the bass, but after I done that, I realised that it actually was a waste of money, because I played my stock Squier Standard P more. So if you want to upgrade, upgrade only those stupid knobs and maybe the pots, cause they WILL break after a year or so.
3. No, first because the Squier looks WAY better than a standard mim and second: the squier has Duncan Designed pickups, which are better than the mim-pickups.
 
If you can afford to wait, the Standard MIM series Jazz is a nice bass. Have you looked at the Squire Classic Vibe series? Very nice bass for 299.00. I did a review here

I have looked at it. The '60s Vibe Bass anyway. Compared the Vintage '70s I liked the look more and just preferred the overall playing of it.
If you had to compare it to this VM J-Bass what would (in your opinion) be a better pick?
 
I'll let you know my impressions on this bass in a few days. I just won a Vintage Modified on ebay sunday night. It came with a Fender Deluxe gig bag and an uninstalled Gotoh bridge. I got the whole package for $250. It should get here on Thursday! I'll let you know how it compares to my Geddy.

I plan to install the bridge within a few days. The next mod will be to replace the bridge pickup with an alnico Basslines Music Man pickup wired to a coil tapping switch.

I've been wanting to do this to a jazz bass for some time and I think the Vintage Modified will be a good foundation for a hot rodded bass.

Later down the road I might replace the neck pickup with another MM pickup.

A geddy bass would be fun! congrats on your buy, sounds like a good deal. love to hear what you find out, keep me up to date! thanks!
 
I've had my VMJ a year now... the only thing that got upgraded was the control plate/pot assembly and that was only because I was able to score a cheap fully loaded Fender Geddy Lee assembly for less than the cost 3 separate CTS pots would have come to...

With nylon tapewounds I get a very nice tone for playing blues & jazz with... I'm not into slapping at all.

The only upgrade it's going to get is a replacement bone nut and that's only because I can't put Rotosound Tru-Bass nylon tapewounds onto it without enlarging the nut slots...
 
Thank you all for your help,I really appreciate it. If anyone has a suggestion for a bass I should look into, send it my way. Im looking to spend $200-$300 for now.

I actually bought black Fender Nylon Tape wounds, hoping that it would help. (If I decide to buy the Squier VM J-Bass)
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I have to agree with most of what I've heard in here. Don't waste another $200 on MIM's if you can already afford the Squier VM, or CV series. They are constructed just as well, or better. Play all the VM and CV series basses and pick the one you like best. Just be sure to play them and inspect them first. Some of them can be junk, some gems. You are likely to find both if you sample a few. That has been my experience.

My only complaint on my VM Tele was the nut. I had it replaced though.
 
I absolutely LOVED the one that I owned! The only mod I did to mine was change the strings and place additional foam under the pickups to raise them a bit more. The only mod I would suggest, if you must change anything, is change the tuners. A good fret dressing will take you places with that bass.
 

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