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Squier Vintage Modified 70s J-Bass [HELP!]

What nut?

Nut: Slotted piece of material at the top of the neck that retains the strings.

On Squiers and on many inexpensive guitars they are made out of plastic. The nut on my VM was very poorly constructed, and could not accept the string size it was supposedly capable of. Rather than waste time filing it, I had a local luthier make me a new synthetic bone one. It also improved the action quite a bit.

This doesn't mean however that you will need to replace a nut. I'm just very particular like a lot of folks around here.

Good luck.
 
I've had my VM 70s J for a few months now. I got it in a trade and it was already heavily modified - BAII Bridge, GFS Overwound PUPs, CTS Pots, Switchcraft jack, etc. The guy who had it before me had filed the nut to hell because he was tuning it BEAD. I had my tech make me a bone nut and do a setup back to standard gauges and it plays like a dream. It's been my main bass on my last few gigs. I've played a few stock ones in local stores and they seem okay as well. With all of the upgrades mine has it plays like a much nicer bass but you may not need all of that. I'm also interested in the CV 60s J but no one around here has one in stock.
 
I have looked at it. The '60s Vibe Bass anyway. Compared the Vintage '70s I liked the look more and just preferred the overall playing of it.
If you had to compare it to this VM J-Bass what would (in your opinion) be a better pick?


Gord_oh

I PM'd you on my thoughts as you requested. Feel free to post up my reply here if you so choose.

Keep Low :bassist:
 
I have a Squier VMJ that I bought like as an accident...I was there to test some Fenders to better decide on a possible Fender purchase off the Bay. I pulled the Squier down as an afterthought to play it before I left the store. 2 days later Im on the phone with the place putting that VMJ on lay away. My VMJ is very sweet. I haven't had any problems with it at all. Its a great feeling, sounding, playing bass worth more then I paid for it, thats for sure!!! I grabbed mine for $279 before tax and it was well worth it I think. I see no reason to mod mine at all, it just plays great as is IMO.
 
I like the p bass better...

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I bought one as a back up to my fender jazz,after a couple of weeks,decided to convert it to a fretless.the fingerboard has been coated with epoxy.it has TI flats on it.at the moment I am only thinking to get some bartolinis(dual coil).To me it is a very good bass for the price,fretted or fretless.
 

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I am a fairly new bass player, about a year, but am interested and committed to perfecting the art. I play an Ibanez GSR200, a simple starter bass a friend sold me cheap. I am looking at the Squier Vintage Modified 70s Jazz Bass. So far the reviews on it have been more than comforting, I am ready to go and pick it up.

I have a few questions, preferably someone who knows the bass.
1. Worth the price?
2. Should I upgrade if I choose this bass? (Bridge, hardware, truss rod, etc.)
3. Save a couple hundred more dollars and upgrade to a Standard Fender J-Bass?

If anyone can answer these and maybe even give me a little more insight on this bass, I would be more than grateful!

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I bought one of these about a month ago, as a backup/experiment. I'd always wanted a Jazz, but hadn't been able to find a decent used one (and didn't want to pay for a new MIM or American made). My main basses are a 1974 or so P-Bass that I bought in 1980 and modified in the mid-80s with a BA-II bridge and Duncan Quarter Pounder, and a Korean maded Spector from the mid-90s. I also have a Schecter C-1 for fun.

I agree with much of what has been written here already. I paid the going street price of $279 at GC. I ended up playing a couple, and liked the display model best. It needed a little tweaking on the truss rod. I replaced the bridge with a Gotoh 201 ($37.50 shipped from Warmouth), and it now has D'Addario heavy Chrome flats. The tuners and nut are very low end. I'm considering replacing the tuners with some Schallers, but not sure it's worth the $50 it would cost. And it stays in tune. The frets could stand some dressing, but I've got the action pretty high, and there are no buzzes.

The pickups seem weak to me -- no where near the output and punch of the Quarter Pounder in my P-Bass. Again, probably not worth replacing, though, unless I find a deal on some used pickups. The pots don't seem like they will last very long, and the tone pot already makes noise, but they work for now. (By comparison, I've never replaced the pots in my P-bass since buying it in 1980).

Finally, it's a pretty heavy bass - very body-heavy. My P-Bass has a lighter body.

After I bought this one, I played a 60's Vintage Vibe J-Bass at another GC. I actually like the look of the Vibe better, but it needed a lot of set-up work, and did not play nearly as well. It also seemed lighter.

All in all, I'm pleased with the purchase. If you want a heavier bridge, the Gotoh 201 is a bolt-in replacement, and at $37.50 shipped, is probably the one cost-effective upgrade worth making right away.

Hope this helps.
 
The pickups seem weak to me -- no where near the output and punch of the Quarter Pounder in my P-Bass. Again, probably not worth replacing, though, unless I find a deal on some used pickups. The pots don't seem like they will last very long, and the tone pot already makes noise, but they work for now. (By comparison, I've never replaced the pots in my P-bass since buying it in 1980).

Try raising the pickups, I know it made a difference in mine! Remember, these are 'Duncan Designed', not true Duncans.
 
I've had mine a couple of months. I played every bass on the wall the day I bought it, including a $1200 or $1300 Fender. I'm not going to say the VM is as good, folks would think I was crazy. But I will say the VM is the only bass I kept coming back to, over and over. I was not shopping for a bass, just killing time. So I wasn't looking at price tags or even particularly looking at names on head stocks. That is, until I decided I wanted the VM, then I started checking details.
To answer your questions:
1) To me it definitely is.
2) I've not been tempted to upgrade anything, I see no reason to.
3) I wouldn't.

Me too! I first played one in a music shop last spring, the damned thing almost followed me home! I also played an Aerodyne Jazz, a Highway 1 jazz, a Fender Standard, a Squire Standard, and Ibanez, Ibanez Mikro, a Peavey Cirus, and an ESP f 104 (I think) and I tooo could not believe the Squier VM Jazz.

Honestly guys and gals, if there was a 600 dollar price tag and a Fender Decal on the VM it would not have surprised me in terms of quality!

And yes I have one, and yes I love it! I am also thinking of picking up another and painting the body a different color. Cheap and easy mod....
 
Please do I'd love to know your thoughts

nathanswatch

Here's what I sent Gord_oh.


OK, here we go. This is just my opinion and is not set in stone.

If we are talking about the Squire's then it's almost a toss up between the two. Either will be a decent "starter" bass. I say starter only because you as a player might outgrow the capabilites of these fairly quick. Hardware on each is similar. Cost is about the same. The hardware will wear out quicker than a MIJ, MIM, or USA as to be expected on a 300.00 bass.

The 70's will probably have the bigger frets versus the skinny vintage style of the Classic Vibe. Both have newer "C" profile 9.5 radius necks. Look VERY closely at the neck inlays AND binding on the 70's bass. I've "heard" that they are not real inlays and binding, that they are painted on. If so they WILL wear away after time and that would look like crap if it happens. I can't confirm about the paint from firsthand experience as I've never looked. Both these basses are marketed as "entry" level and my guess is that Fender thinks most buyers will outgrow and move to better basses before the paint (if true) wears off. Who knows? The 60's has no binding and real dot style inlays.

If the 70's is closely fashioned after the real 70's Jazz the rear PU placement will be different from the 60's bass as Fender changed it during the 70's. I think the rear PU was moved closer to the bridge. That will give you a brighter sound and a bit more growl.

The bridge on the 60's is a heavier unit but has non standard screw spacing. It IS a nice bridge though. Tuners are just so so units and will need to changed out quicker than a MIJ, MIM, or USA bass. They are decent enough for average use.

The neck on the 60's is as I said laquer finished and you might not like it. Lots of players don't. Fender Japan uses it but not MIM's or most Squires. USA's only have it on the vintage series basses. So it's not common too much anymore.

Is the body on the 70's Ash? If so, it will give you a brighter tone than the Basswood on the 60's. Maple neck is brighter sounding too than the Rosewood on the 60's. If you lean toward the more modern Hi-Fi type sound the 70's would be more to your liking.

In the end it comes down to what you as a player prefer. If possible play both basses and try to decide. For me it was the 60's bass. It just felt better to me than the 70's series did. I didn't like the feel of the neck on the 70's model but I'm not a big fan of the MIM necks either.

If possible try to play more than just one of each model. QC varies widely on the Squire basses. One might be good and another of the same model might just be passable. If you get my drift.

A good basic rule of thumb is that if the action is already medium or high and you have fret buzz anywhere on the neck, pass on it and try another. IMO If it's already buzzing with meduim or high action, there's no way you're going to get it lower without a "pro" fret level and setup at around 100 to 140 bucks. So consider that when choosing.

Just remember that the Squire basses are what they are... good entry level instruments that hopefully will make you want to go for the real Fender down the road.

Hope this helps. Good luck and let me know how you make out or if you have any more questions.

I sent another PM regarding the body on the 70's. Squire lists it as Maple which IS a brighter sounding tonewood that the Basswood of the 60's series. Squire also lists the neck as being "bound". This usually means with plastic. The inlays still should be inspected as to weather or not they are painted or actual inlays. Maybe an owner of one of the 70's VM's can take a look and confirm. The 70's also has "duncan" designed PU's that use Alnico 5 magnets. The 60's vibe has Alnico too but I can't say if their the same PU's underneath.

All I can say is that the 60's Classic Vibe I have is a great playing bass for the price. If anyone is toying with the idea of getting a Jazz style bass to mess around with, you can't go wrong with it. As a 30+ year player, I can tell you that if it was a POS, It wouldn't be hanging on my wall right now.

I'm looking forward to getting it over to practice and give it a workout. However that will have to wait for a few months. Our drummer (my brother) broke his ankle (HUGE :atoz:), so we are on hold probably till late Jan or Feb and then he will have to rehab some to get back in the groove. BIG TIME SUCKS but it is what it is, so we deal with it. Gives me some time to do some badly needed cleanup in my music studio and lay down some new ideas.

Keep Low :bassist:
 
My story seems very similar to so many others here. I picked my VMJ up at Billy Hyde in Maroochydore and had about 5 mins playing with it just before they closed. Went back on the Monday morning added another 5 more minutes and parted with the coin.

Paid $670 AUD for it and I am loving it. I have been trying to find any excuse to upgrade something but haven't found any yet. Very playable straight off the rack.

In comparison, I noodled with a MIM jazz at another store and it did nothing for me. It felt cheap and the price was higher. I guess everyone has Friday afternoon quality occasionally.

Cheers
 
don't buy new
Don't buy from GC

buy used. You will get so much more for your money and you'll be able to sell it for the $ you pay.

I went to a guitar store that had a new VM Squier and a modded one. The modded had a BadAss Bass Bridge 2 and plastic knobs instead of the stock chrome. I couldnt tell if anything elsehad been changed on it, but would this particular guitar be worth looking into? (enough to buy it over a new stock version)