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Sting: Isolated bass track on "Message in a Bottle"

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by A.K., Apr 12, 2014.

  1. A.K.


    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
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  2. Space Pickle

    Space Pickle

    Apr 15, 2013
    Wow, he's really ahead of the beat eh?
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  3. A.K.


    Jan 9, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    Well, he's Sting. He's a pretty intense guy. :)
  4. OldDirtyBassist


    Mar 13, 2014
    Maybe they didn't have a lot of studio time for tracking bass. It's out of tune, and there are multiple equalization things happening. The first chorus is obviously rushed, click track or not. It's really a pretty bad bass recording.
  5. Robus


    Aug 25, 2013
    Chicago Area
    A fun and easy song to play--on bass. On guitar it hurts. On the verse riff I always feel like holding that last F# just a little bit behind the beat. Don't really hear it here. Anyone else?
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  6. I think that's part of Sting's sound. It makes him unique and awesome
  7. corinpills


    Nov 19, 2000
    Boston, MA
    The first two Police albums were done very quickly and cheaply with their FOH mixer engineering and most things played live. I don't hear a lot of intonation issues as much as sliding into the notes as one does on fretless. Some of the high F#s are a little shady, I guess, but it sure us a great sounding record; one of the all time classics.
  8. Robus


    Aug 25, 2013
    Chicago Area
    Great band. Had they stuck with it I think they could have ranked with the best.
  9. bluesdogblues


    Nov 13, 2007
    I'm a big fan of Sting & The Police & that song, but I agree that this is not his best bass recorded isolated. As a whole song arrangement it's awesome tho. Just like the man himself, probably not the 'Best' bass player in the world, but as a whole (musicianship, person, songwriter, arranger etc) he is The Genius.
  10. bluesdogblues


    Nov 13, 2007
    It's fretless and I think intonation is OK.

    They are one of the best.
  11. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Supporting Member

    The whole dynamics of the band was in this.
    Sting pushing forward while Copeland was pulling back.
    It makes their music sound like a strange mix of reggae and rock.
    They are, indeed a legendary band and one of the best.
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  12. bluesdogblues


    Nov 13, 2007
    Beg to differ, but I think they're both pretty intense guys who tend to push forward, SC definitely is not the laid back or holding kind of drummer.
  13. GKon

    GKon Supporting Member, Boom-Chicka-Boom

    Feb 17, 2013
    Queens, NY
    Thanks for posting this.
    I've always really loved The Police. I think Stewart Copeland is one of the top drummers and I've always loved Sting's bass lines and voice. His bass lines always sounded to me, as him playing exactly what needed to be there, with no excess. A case of the silence and pauses being as important as the notes played.
  14. OldDirtyBassist


    Mar 13, 2014
    Maybe the questionable slides represent Sting's despair of being alone. Maybe the producer told him to play that way. Maybe they decided to leave the out of tune bass track to sell records, claiming it adds a punk element to the song.
  15. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    +1000 on that!!
  16. I love these 'wow listen to how crappy this isolated bass track is' threads. I love the Police. I don't listen to them much anymore, but Synchronicity is one of the best albums ever recorded. Iso a bass track with no context, how can one even comment on that? Is it to make you feel better about yourself?
  17. Up the dose

    Up the dose

    Mar 10, 2013
    How are these isolated tracks obtained? Is there ever any question to the authenticity of these tracks?
  18. Kmonk


    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings, Nordstrand Pickups, Korg Keyboards
    Might be the worst bass tone I've ever heard.
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  19. Altitude

    Altitude An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure. Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    Denver, nee Austin
    Agreed, Message in a Bottle was on Regatta De Blanc, though.

    Listening to isolated tracks does make me feel better about myself, although maybe not in the way you meant. I hear lots of imperfection and also lots of emotion. Also, almost always more overdrive than I expected. Then I listen to some of the stuff I've recorded and I hear myself trying to be needle-clean and perfect with every part. In the final product, it really doesn't sound as good that way, somehow.

    So, these isolated mixes give me hope, maybe I should drop the leash and let the rock roll.
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  20. bluesdogblues


    Nov 13, 2007
    Speaking of that, I remember how I started get hired more when my bass playing get more 'rusty' after abandoned it for awhile for 'pursuing more (musical) things that doesn't had anything to do with technical side of bass playing' (namely attitude).

    Each thing has it's own place tho,.. there's also place for 'clean perfect high' technical bass playing too I believe.
    But in the case of MIB-Sting-Bass track-The Police it's not that.
    There are more important things than that.