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Stingray-the most divisive bass sound?

Rays don't need to have that trebly, divisive sound. You can easily use them to produce a terrific womp that'll box the ears of everyone in sight. Nothing hits harder than a Ray, and it's not because of a load of tinny treble. They've got stupendous low end and the midrange to make it work. A Ray doesn't "cut through" the mix. A Ray is like the hoof of a draft horse and the mix is nothing but flimsy human skull and brain matter. You are now the kick drum, thanks drummer you can give your leg a break I got this. If a sound could cause blunt force trauma it would be the sound of a StingRay bass.
 
I came of age when slap was new and bassist's like Chris Squire of Yes and Mark Adams of Slave were making themselves heard with generous amounts of treble. Although I have dialed back on treble, the one thing I still love is clarity and well defined notes. I respect P-basses and play them at times, but the lower mid emphasis of a P-bass cannot give the strong treble response I can get in a Stingray or Jazz, and that is why, I have to choose, I will always take a Stingray or Jazz over a P-bass. Even with the treble turned off completely, a Stingray gives me a clarity I don't get in a Precision.
 
I can see where the tonality can be divisive. If left to it's own devices, it can be a bright bass.
However, if you set it by ear, it can get a wide variety of tones.
I have a pair of 2EQ US SUBS, these easily get that scoopy, bright tone, but if you back the treble off below noon and keep the bass knob around 2-3, it's a somewhat flat and balanced tone.
I also have a Fender Dimension H with the 3 band--that bass has a lot more mids and less highs than a typical Stingray. I use it more when I don't need that signature Stingray punchy bite.
 
Even with the treble turned off completely, a Stingray gives me a clarity I don't get in a Precision.

Don't have a Stingray, but I find that I can get that clarity in the lows (with the treble down) with either a pickup near the neck or with a J bridge pickup, but as you said, something happens in between that interferes with it. I think so too.

I liked most of the clips linked above, but maybe Paul Denman with Sade the most.
 
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I love the sound of Stingrays, when I hear other people playing them. But I've never been able to get one to work out for me. I've owned single H's, an HS, and a few different HH's. I've always wanted to love them, but I've always been left feeling pretty meh about them when I've used them.
You sound awfully good on your Jazzes. Stay in your lane.:)
 
Case dismissed.
Made your point, yes.
Thanks for the effort. I found that I would have to *study* it, and still probably would have made a mess. I guess A-B versus a P would have been too easy?

Wish list for a clip to hear: Someone EQing a Stingray, Ric bridge, and J bridge (60's spacing) to sound as much as possible like Paul Denman with Sade.
 
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Made your point, yes.
Thanks for the effort. I found that I would have to *study* it, and still probably would have made a mess. I guess A-B versus a P would have been too easy?

Wish list for a clip to hear: Someone EQing a Stingray, Ric bridge, and J bridge (60's spacing) to sound as much as possible like Paul Denman with Sade.

I always liked the tone of the bass player in Sade. You know its a Ray when you heard the recordings.
 
One thing I've noticed - the "Old Smoothies', both the older, vintage Rays, as well as the re-issue, have a very different vibe than more contemporary Rays. I used a friend's '76 Ray on multiple occasions, and it was just a killer "mix" bass. Nothing super distinctive about it. Just a punchy, robust tone. But it weighed ~11 lbs. :eek:

I'm guessing most would agree more modern Rays are honkier, clickier, and generally more aggressive.

I would love to try a Stingray Special in the mix sometime.
 
Made your point, yes.
Thanks for the effort. I found that I would have to *study* it, and still probably would have made a mess. I guess A-B versus a P would have been too easy?

Wish list for a clip to hear: Someone EQing a Stingray, Ric bridge, and J bridge (60's spacing) to sound as much as possible like Paul Denman with Sade.

If I had fretted versions of those I would try, but my only fretted bass is a Ray, so it would be an easy spot.
 
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They don't change, they are the same bass the day you buy one as ten or twenty years down the road. The wide range of sounds they are capable of producing (as proven on many very popular recordings) does not narrow over time. If the user chooses to make the settings the exact same way all the time with the bass and treble dimed and the mids scooped before they start slapping the crap out of the stainless roundwound strings, then they will have evolved their sound into some terrible facsimile of what they think the funk masters created ...and do it poorly.

Stingrays seem to have a certain quintessential sound for better or worse, I don't like it

The best attribute of the Fender Precision Bass is that it's pickup design and placement tends to cut through the mix and be heard well in a busy mix. Basses that don't do that, like a Jazz Bass sometimes, are not a real useful tool when they disappear in the mix. Stingrays can be set to sound as "round" and "dubby" and "Motown" and "mellow" as you choose, or made to sound as aggressive as Flea or Tim Commerford can make them sound. Just a matter of some knob twisting, string choice, amp settings and playing technique, just like with a Precision or Jazz bass.

Fender P basses can imitate pretty much any other bass within reason and to be honest I have never owned a Stingray, but the reason is because I've never liked their sound, I don't like active basses anyway, I've owned several active J and P basses, always got rid of them.

What you are describing with the Ric is the same problem that some folks have with the StingRay, if you dial in an abrasive sound and then don't like it, it is operator error and not a thing that can't be changed in minutes. Paul McCartney never sounded as you describe with his Rickenbacker.

Yes, but many people such as McCartney established their sound before Rotos were a gleam in their daddy's eye, during the 70's they were kind of stereotyped but that is long gone although it is still a useful tool in a Ric owners arsenal. Incidentally I was not trying to bash them, if someone gave me one I would play around with it and try to get accustomed to it, as I have with many other types of basses.
 
Honestly I would say Hofners and EB0/EB3 are much more divisive tonally
I agree.
In a similar vein to the EB0, add the Mudbucker Tele bass. I had the Squier version. Until I went in and rewired the pickup to a series/parallel switch, I found the factory series tone pretty unusable as a utility bass. It was too indistinct, too hot--didn't play well with my other basses when I would switch out on the fly at gigs--required too much adjustment. Parallel mode worked much better for tonality and output matching to 'typical' basses. That bass was so divisive that I eventually sold it.
 
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Stingray-the most divisive bass sound?

106 responders to the thread, 39 (to date) have opened the file and only 1 has had the balls to say anything. Disappointing for such a divisive tone that is supposed to be so obnoxious it can't be missed.

Case dismissed.

Hang on there cowboy - I listened to it. There is something to be said for tone in the hands vs. the instrument...

I remember playing live and switching basses mid - set while band mates were distracted, I later asked them "What bass was I playing on the last 3 songs?" Their answer: "I don't know, it just sounded like you"

BTW - flat wound strings tend to have a normalizing effect, that is exactly why I don't use them. Rounds give the spice in flavor if different instruments.

Case not dismissed. We seek tone whether we admit it or not, whether anyone notices or not.
 
Hang on there cowboy - I listened to it. There is something to be said for tone in the hands vs. the instrument...

I remember playing live and switching basses mid - set while band mates were distracted, I later asked them "What bass was I playing on the last 3 songs?" Their answer: "I don't know, it just sounded like you"

BTW - flat wound strings tend to have a normalizing effect, that is exactly why I don't use them. Rounds give the spice in flavor if different instruments.

Case not dismissed. We seek tone whether we admit it or not, whether anyone notices or not.

But could you tell them apart? More to the point, did any stand out as love/hate?
 

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