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Mike Arnopol's MAS-210 Flex Mod and MAS-112 fit into the "super cab" category.
Owned both, had two MAS-112's for a bit too (FWIW, way overkill unless it's a no PA festival where you want loud clear bass everywhere or the ubiquitous but unobtainable stadium gig).
Still have one MAS-112. Bought a MAS-26 as my small cab/gig solution.
From my experience having owned many of the already named super cabs, Mike's cabs truly are rock stars.
John
Owned both, had two MAS-112's for a bit too (FWIW, way overkill unless it's a no PA festival where you want loud clear bass everywhere or the ubiquitous but unobtainable stadium gig).
Still have one MAS-112. Bought a MAS-26 as my small cab/gig solution.
From my experience having owned many of the already named super cabs, Mike's cabs truly are rock stars.
John
Although I'm quite happy w/ my array of cabs, including a Bergie 410, Genz-Benz Neo 210, Schroeder 212PL, and Ashdown Neo15, none are in the "super Cab" class
I've REALLY wanted to work one, and tried to check one out at NAMM, a fEARful 12/12/6.
There was a cab there at a shared booth down in "E" one year.- Some player was wanking it so loud, and so bad, with not 1, but (2) of his "groupie girls" standing around, I could bear it no more.
That's an issue, but from what I've read and discussed, with Mr Hawke at the time- I would gladly have one built and add it to my studio.
(If I ever tried to build one myself- NO!
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I've REALLY wanted to work one, and tried to check one out at NAMM, a fEARful 12/12/6.
There was a cab there at a shared booth down in "E" one year.- Some player was wanking it so loud, and so bad, with not 1, but (2) of his "groupie girls" standing around, I could bear it no more.
That's an issue, but from what I've read and discussed, with Mr Hawke at the time- I would gladly have one built and add it to my studio.
(If I ever tried to build one myself- NO!
)
You don't. While it may sound "super" it's not a "super cab."
Right. And to make it clear: Nothing wrong with Mesa, etc. but the subject here is the highly-engineered multi-driver cabs with crossover points and such that are built/ designed to audiophile standards.You don't. While it may sound "super" it's not a "super cab."
I'm sure the difference is awesome. Someday...I shall know!
Yeah I know lol. I was just saying it is super to meYou don't. While it may sound "super" it's not a "super cab."
. The only thing that is not super to me is the weight 65 lbs for a 2x10 cab, but it's built like a tank!
Judging by the current cost of Invalid Link Removed, yes - if you actually have the skills/space available to do so. Otherwise, I'd say that the cost progression (for relatively comparable cabs) would probably go, in order of lowest to highest: Audiokinesis, Barefaced (at least given current exchange rates), Fearless.
However, while my personal experience with many of those cabs is limited, I do feel that the flavors are different enough that once you get up into that price range a decision should really be made on tonal profile more than anything else. A bit of research shows that the builders/models have differing goals sonically.
LDS does deserve a mention as well, as they'd be on the more inexpensive side, but to me it seems like he's more a custom cab builder that can make you something close to Fearlful specs, but I don't believe he does quite the level of R&D that those builders I mentioned above go into when designing a product with their brand name.
Just like with anything, there are different flavors and tiers. To be clear, that's not a knock on LDS at all for what Don's doing, and I do believe his builds to be well engineered - I just place him as a builder in a different category altogether.
I guess what I was thinking was, that Super Cabs had to cost a lot. I paid $350 for my LDS 12/6 (used).
Since it is my first experience with a cab of this caliber I had never had a cab with that much low in punch. It took me some time to dial it in.
I played it out tn at practice and it killed. It looks like I will be holding off on getting a new cab. At 42 lbs it is double the weight of a most of the other 12's in it's class but for what I paid for I think I am good.
Although I'm quite happy w/ my array of cabs, including a Bergie 410, Genz-Benz Neo 210, Schroeder 212PL, and Ashdown Neo15, none are in the "super Cab" class
I've REALLY wanted to work one, and tried to check one out at NAMM, a fEARful 12/12/6.
There was a cab there at a shared booth down in "E" one year.- Some player was wanking it so loud, and so bad, with not 1, but (2) of his "groupie girls" standing around, I could bear it no more.
That's an issue, but from what I've read and discussed, with Mr Hawke at the time- I would gladly have one built and add it to my studio.
(If I ever tried to build one myself- NO!
So were saying NO bergs fall into the 'Super Cab Class', what has Talkbass come to?
I really love my AE410, it kills. Weighs about 60 lbs. Does everything I want it to with juice to spare. I'd call it pretty full range as well. But then again I've never tried a fEARful or anything. If anyone plays one in San Diego I'd love to check it out.
Not sure what amp or pedals you're using, but high-pass filters are your friend, and can greatly help you reign that cab in if it's being a challenge as far as lows are concerned.
They're superior cabs, no doubt.
I get the feeling that the super-cabs name came about in part after the fancy 3012lfs came out, and everybody was referring to them and similar as "super 12s". This was all a good bit of time ago and my memory is a little fuzzy.
What do you get when you put a "super 12" in a cab? A "super cab". I really wouldn't read too much into it. I use the term with some frequency as I think it's generally understood what I'm referring to, but by no means would I take it to mean that things outside of that designation are un-super.
I'd say that's not really common knowledge imo and def not what the op and most of the people on this thread are talking about but I'm interested.They're superior cabs, no doubt.
I get the feeling that the super-cabs name came about in part after the fancy 3012lfs came out, and everybody was referring to them and similar as "super 12s". This was all a good bit of time ago and my memory is a little fuzzy.
What do you get when you put a "super 12" in a cab? A "super cab". I really wouldn't read too much into it. I use the term with some frequency as I think it's generally understood what I'm referring to, but by no means would I take it to mean that things outside of that designation are un-super.
Given that the first four responses to the thread basically all said the same thing, I'm not sure that I agree.
I only mentioned pedals because some, like any number of preamp pedals, have HPF qualities built in even if they're not always called out so well.
You'd definitely be set with the Broughton though!
That triangular opening on top - I get what it's for, but just wondering if it gives you enough vertical dispersion to make it worth doing versus a simple flat top.
