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Super Rant... Am I alone?

They want you to show up with pro gear because it's a filter that will weed out a lot of scrubs that can't play well. If you're taking the low end seriously, you'll have pro gear. They say "Fender" because it cuts out the guys with 7 string coffee table basses that just want to solo over everything. Everyone wants justification that their Squier is just as good as a Fodera, but it's not. And everyone with a Fodera isn't a lawyer that only plays in his music room. Maybe it's the hipster retro revival thing, but cheap basses are usually not as good as more expensive basses. Period. Squiers are nice instruments and you get a lot of bang for your buck. Be happy. Enjoy it. But I really don't get this need for everyone to think that Squiers are just as good as American Fenders. My Scion tC isn't as good as a Ferrari. I understand that and accept it.

I think it goes both ways there, You don't think some people play Foderas and Sadowskys cause of the name is less well known to a casual person (IE someone who isn't super into bass)
 
I think it goes both ways there, You don't think some people play Foderas and Sadowskys cause of the name is less well known to a casual person (IE someone who isn't super into bass)

No, I don't. I don't think Fodera or Sadowsky have sold a single bass to anyone that bought it because the buyer thought that people won't know the name. Seriously.
 
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I must be some kind of an equipment snob because as you can see, I have a "real" Fender...... But seriously, I was at a local jam last Monday in Branson and the bass was one of those candy apple red SX Jazz style basses. I played it for about 5 or 6 songs and it worked fine.

When I was a teenager, about 45 years ago, someone (we will just call him a legal authority figure) explained his theory about music gear to me. I have adhered to all my musical life: "Buy the best music equipment you can afford." My first electric guitar was a Harmony. If you have it in you, you will learn on whatever you have available. Later on, you will probably want more upscale equipment. Nothing wrong with that at all. I feel that the more expensive stuff generally sounds better, stays in tune better, etc. One thing I would suggest to young and upcoming bassists and guitarists: Don't get rid of your first instrument. Later on in life, hang it on the wall; give it a place of honor in your home. Some of the guys on TB still have theirs, and I am more envious of that than I ever will be of their expensive custom-made-whatever-bass.
 
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We seem to have two camps here.

The "Hell no the jerks don't have any right to tell you what to play" and the "Hell yeah, you should buy better gear".

I actually think both are wrong. The OP has never been in a band. If he is looking at bands that are very particular about equipment, they are most likely very experienced and looking to weed out less experienced players. He's not going to get in those bands if he buys the Fender factory. He needs to be looking for guys with a similar level of experience and if he can actually play it, they are going to think his Squire is bad ass.
 
Dude. Seriously. Does anyone like you?

The guy is 19 and far from a pro. At 19 a USA Fender would not have been an option for me.

That's crazy! You look just like Kevin Kline!

Yes lots of people like me.

If you can buy a Squier then you can buy a used MIA with a little discipline.

Where there is a will there is a way. The alternative is to stamp your feet and say NO FAIR!!
 
We seem to have two camps here.

The "Hell no the jerks don't have any right to tell you what to play" and the "Hell yeah, you should buy better gear".

I actually think both are wrong. The OP has never been in a band. If he is looking at bands that are very particular about equipment, they are most likely very experienced and looking to weed out less experienced players. He's not going to get in those bands if he buys the Fender factory. He needs to be looking for guys with a similar level of experience and if he can actually play it, they are going to think his Squire is bad ass.

Actually he should be trying to get in a room where he is the least experienced and worst player in the room. Isn't that the best and fastest way to advance?
 
We seem to have two camps here.

The "Hell no the jerks don't have any right to tell you what to play" and the "Hell yeah, you should buy better gear".

I actually think both are wrong. The OP has never been in a band. If he is looking at bands that are very particular about equipment, they are most likely very experienced and looking to weed out less experienced players. He's not going to get in those bands if he buys the Fender factory. He needs to be looking for guys with a similar level of experience and if he can actually play it, they are going to think his Squire is bad ass.
I have never been in a band. I have jammed with other people in studio and other settings.
 
That's crazy! You look just like Kevin Kline!

Yes lots of people like me.

If you can buy a Squier then you can buy a used MIA with a little discipline.

Where there is a will there is a way. The alternative is to stamp your feet and say NO FAIR!!

No, that Kline punk looks like me.

And I kind of figured that someone likes you. I was just being a dick cause you were being a dick.

But seriously, not everyone, especially young people, can go out and buy expensive instruments.
 
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Dude. Seriously. Does anyone like you?

The guy is 19 and far from a pro. At 19 a USA Fender would not have been an option for me.
I'm not pro. I'm also far from beginner as well. I'm going on my 7th year of playing. Primarily covering RUSH and chili peppers. I play whatever I feel like. I love challenging crazy stuff. Not simple thump thump slow and boring stuff.
 
View attachment 559529 I must be some kind of an equipment snob because as you can see, I have a "real" Fender...... But seriously, I was at a local jam last Monday in Branson and the bass was one of those candy apple red SX Jazz style basses. I played it for about 5 or 6 songs and it worked fine.

When I was a teenager, about 45 years ago, someone (we will just call him a legal authority figure) explained his theory about music gear to me. I have adhered to all my musical life: "Buy the best music equipment you can afford." My first electric guitar was a Harmony. If you have it in you, you will learn on whatever you have available. Later on, you will probably want more upscale equipment. Nothing wrong with that at all. I feel that the more expensive stuff generally sounds better, stays in tune better, etc. One thing I would suggest to young and upcoming bassists and guitarists: Don't get rid of your first instrument. Later on in life, hang it on the wall; give it a place of honor in your home. Some of the guys on TB still have theirs, and I am more envious of that than I ever will be of their expensive custom-made-whatever-bass.
Where's the rest of the bass? I'd like to see it :D
 
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The bands that are particular about your gear are going to be the very experienced guys who are looking for other very experienced guys. Find some players at your level and your equipment will be fine.
I understand that. My problem isn't gear. People rule me out since I'm not 21 and want to get into the bar scene. Drugs, alcohol and cigarettes ARE NOT my thing and never will be. It seems hard to fit in with CLEAN folks. As mentioned I have some friends that recently got in touch and want to jam. So we'll see where it goes. I also have some other people that know people. I'm not concerned. I meet new folks at guitar center every day I go there too. I'm not in a hurry. I'm taking my time.
 
I'm not pro. I'm also far from beginner as well. I'm going on my 7th year of playing. Primarily covering RUSH and chili peppers. I play whatever I feel like. I love challenging crazy stuff. Not simple thump thump slow and boring stuff.

So you have been playing for a while, you still haven't been in a band. Get in a band with guys of your experience level and your gear will not be an issue. If you are really as good as you think, people will hear you and want you to come play your Squire in their band.
 
Can you see the logo on this guy's guitar?

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Got to see Jeff twice -- once he was the curtain call for Clapton the night BEFORE SRV died. I saw Cray open for Vaughan open for Clapton on the FIRST of the two dates they did. The second date was Stevie's last show. The other time I saw him was in a 5000 seat theater - the only act on the bill. GOSH GOSH GOSH. What a talent. OP: look up Jeff Healey if you don't know his stuff. :) We're with you on this.
 
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