But in fact, it makes more sense to use genuine current-production parts and make the necessary modifications to make it work. To test your luck and buy "genuine" parts off eBay makes little sense.
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Part of the problem is that the unique output transistor package had as about as much thermal dissipation capabilities as a TO-3 metal package... that's what made it a good choice for this type of application, plus it had really nice gain-bandwidth performance.But in fact, it makes more sense to use genuine current-production parts and make the necessary modifications to make it work. To test your luck and buy "genuine" parts off eBay makes little sense.
But if the alternative is to scrap an amp that is otherwise worth saving (for instance, here we're talking about a bi-amp head, right? Which is somewhat rare), that's when you might consider either modifying the PCB and/or heatsink to accommodate a transistor in some other package (yes, a big problem is that not many devices are available today that can do the job) or just use another power amp. Like, I wonder what techs do in places where repair, redesign and re-use still makes sense. I don't think there is much distribution for audio amplifiers of any kind in rural Ghana. Or, in a more developed part of the world, New Zealand. (AFAIK they have a hard time getting any sort of equipment, and whatever is there costs an arm and a leg).Part of the problem is that the unique output transistor package had as about as much thermal dissipation capabilities as a TO-3 metal package... that's what made it a good choice for this type of application, plus it had really nice gain-bandwidth performance.
If the repair is going to be unreliable, the real question is how to support the cost of repairing again and again. I learned a long time ago that once you repair something, you kind of become married to it for the warranty period. If you don't offer a warranty, and don't stand behind your work, customers can take unreasonable actions. Maybe your experiences are different than mine.But if the alternative is to scrap an amp that is otherwise worth saving (for instance, here we're talking about a bi-amp head, right? Which is somewhat rare), that's when you might consider either modifying the PCB and/or heatsink to accommodate a transistor in some other package (yes, a big problem is that not many devices are available today that can do the job) or just use another power amp. Like, I wonder what techs do in places where repair, redesign and re-use still makes sense. I don't think there is much distribution for audio amplifiers of any kind in rural Ghana. Or, in a more developed part of the world, New Zealand. (AFAIK they have a hard time getting any sort of equipment, and whatever is there costs an arm and a leg).
Deenah, do you have the blue board or tan board version of the amp? I've got both schematics. Matter of fact I just redid a blue board not long ago.Good day
Well, my swr sm 900 had a major failure, I'm in need of the schematics for the amplifier.
Not exactly shure what happened but it took out 6 ic's. Tech replaced them but still no go. I can't explain what the tech told me exactly, but he's dumbfounded as to what's going on.
Anyone have the schematic for this amplifier? This is going to be a expensive repair, but the guy is super cool and not charging me for lots of time spent trouble shooting it.
One thing I've always done is put the amp through hell before it leaves my bench. Depending on the specs and design I'll run 1KHz sine @ 50-80% of full power for 30-45 minutes into a load cell. If it doesn't fail then, it probably won't at the gig. It's worked for me for the past 35 years.If the repair is going to be unreliable, the real question is how to support the cost of repairing again and again. I learned a long time ago that once you repair something, you kind of become married to it for the warranty period. If you don't offer a warranty, and don't stand behind your work, customers can take unreasonable actions. Maybe your experiences are different than mine.
Repairs in rural parts of the world are generally really unreliable, but that's accepted as "ok" because there is no alternative.
Are you using factory correct Sanken parts or the currently available counterfeits and knockoffs?One thing I've always done is put the amp through hell before it leaves my bench. Depending on the specs and design I'll run 1KHz sine @ 50-80% of full power for 30-45 minutes into a load cell. If it doesn't fail then, it probably won't at the gig. It's worked for me for the past 35 years.
Why is this putting the amp "through hell"?Depending on the specs and design I'll run 1KHz sine @ 50-80% of full power for 30-45 minutes into a load cell.
Full sine wave is more abusive than just playing music through it. Running it continuously for 20-30 minutes on a sine is more abuse than almost any player could give it on stage. The frequency is just a standard frequency for audio testing. I also do a swept frequency test to make sure nothing went south in the preamp or EQ circuitry.Why is this putting the amp "through hell"?
Why specifically this frequency?
Some of us still warranty our work.Full sine wave is more abusive than just playing music through it. Running it continuously for 20-30 minutes on a sine is more abuse than almost any player could give it on stage. The frequency is just a standard frequency for audio testing. I also do a swept frequency test to make sure nothing went south in the preamp or EQ circuitry.
I guess I would call it "stress testing". Have things gone south doing this? YUP! Was my client happy it blew up on my test bench instead of his gig? Oh HELL yes!
Oh yeah and ALL my repairs come with a 180 day warranty on the repair performed. It's doing business the way it used to be.