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SX Stingray

IotaNet said:
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This is exactly right.

wish this had been around when i got my OLP. cheaper, and with active pu. woah. but when I got my OLP I was still elated with my MM5 baritone, which I just want to paint black now. I'm happy I got the maple neck on mine but it is this nasty shade of blue. The black ones look nice, but me no likey rosewood. which is why I'm gonna make my OLP my backup bitch once I get a nice P with a maple neck. Now why is it that in the squire line, or most of the MIM line, that they do not offer maple necks? seems silly to me. sure, the badtz maru bass has a maple neck, and the mim 57 reissues do too, as well as the deluxe, but i just want a $400 pbass with a maple neck. I'm bidding on a 1988 Japanese Fender right now, hope I get it. :bassist:
 
Visirale said:
It looks odd to me. The pickguard looks small ot me... or the body is big... something. The placing of the pickup looks kind of off also...

Haha, they also have a 5. Doesn't have the 5 pickguard though.


Yeah I thought it looked kinda weird too. If it is supposed to be a straight out copy then its not right. Might be designed that way though I guess.

The 5 without the 5 pick guard is a good idea. When I was buying my ray I couldn't decide if i wanted the 4 or 5 string. I already had a 4 string p-bass but wasn't GASing for that 5th string. In the end it came down to really hating the 5 pick guard and so I bought the 4!!! :bassist:
 
I'm surprised at the dark remarks. I thought people were pretty excited to see these come out.

I suppose people will assume that my displeasure has more to do with my EBMM dealer status than it does with anything else, but it comes from elsewhere first.

I've always liked the fact that while there are a zillion Fenderish copies out there (and others), a Stingray is a Stingray. How many times have you seen someone playing a J or a P and asked yourself, "What is that?" I never had to do that with a Stingray.

The company policy of not selling parts or licensing parts helped to keep the clone business down to nearly nothing. More power to them, I say.

So it comes, first and foremost, from my long-standing love for the Stingray. Hell, I didn't even like the OLP concept, although I've made my peace with that.

Secondly, yes, I sell EBMM products and count the boss over there as a friend, so that has to be considered, I suppose. I am ready for my flogging, but I sincerely hope that EBMM shuts this down. The 3+1 headstock is protected, after all....so we'll see.

For a minute there I thought I was back in the "Bass Snobbery" thread.

We all have our preferences. Mine don't run to fancy tops and boutique basses, but I don't hold it against anyone who likes that sort of thing. I'm a 'lunch pail bassist' at best, but I do like a good, solid quality bass....don't want to have to cure fret sprout on a new instrument, that sort of thing. If that makes me a snob, I'm okay with it. (Although I'm assuming that the people who know me will laugh about the 'snob' handle.)

Obviously, if you want a less expensive but still quality instrument, there are SUBs. If you're a serious player (whatever that means), the street price on SUBs should strike you as pretty reasonable. If you want a platform to carry out dark, evil experiments, or if you want a beginner bass, there is the OLP. Both of those options reward the company that builds the Stingray - and other perfectly good instruments.

But the cheap-ass copies? I don't like them. I think it's stealing, and however big the flames get, I hope to hell that EBMM sues the everlovin' bejeezus out of them and makes them stop.

Unreasonable by design,

Jack
 
Visirale said:
It looks odd to me. The pickguard looks small ot me... or the body is big... something. The placing of the pickup looks kind of off also...

Haha, they also have a 5. Doesn't have the 5 pickguard though.

Thats because it's "striking" You can't see that? You obviously can't handle one of these.

They had to leave it off of the 5 string because it was so "striking" that it scared small children and gave women blader control problems.
 
For $159 does anybody honestly think people plan to compare it to an EBMM?

No, but speaking of "honestly"......does it seem to you that a certain cheap POS company is trading on the good name of certain instrument manufacturers? Does that seem 'honest'?

Again, I hope someone sues them into the next universe.

Jack
 
bovinehost said:
No, but speaking of "honestly"......does it seem to you that a certain cheap POS company is trading on the good name of certain instrument manufacturers? Does that seem 'honest'?

Again, I hope someone sues them into the next universe.
Jack

And yet above you say that you're fine with the zillions of Fender knockoffs. Playing favorites much? Sure sounds like sour-grapes even if you insist that it's not...

You can buy many other basses with MM style pickups/electronics, so it's not like copying the tone is a new thing, and no one's going to mistake the SX for a genuine EBMM.

Frankly I'd be happy if they destroy OLP sales, just because of the terrible QC that OLP apparently has (disclaimer: never played an SX or an OLP).
 
And yet above you say that you're fine with the zillions of Fender knockoffs. Playing favorites much? Sure sounds like sour-grapes even if you insist that it's not...

You might want to read what I posted again for comprehension. I do not think it's fine for a 'manufacturer' to rip off ANY real instrument builder, be it Fender, G&L, MusicMan, you name it, and I certainly never said so.

You are right about one thing - I do have a special place in my heart for EBMM instruments, but that's been going on since 1977, long before I had any business association with them.

Jack
 
bovinehost said:
No, but speaking of "honestly"......does it seem to you that a certain cheap POS company is trading on the good name of certain instrument manufacturers? Does that seem 'honest'?

Again, I hope someone sues them into the next universe.

Jack

No one's "trading" on the EB name, and if they are, it's nothing new. It's a knock off. Come on... Jay Turser, Arbor, Dillion, and others have been doing the Musicman knock off thing for years. I've seen quite a number of EB knock-off's at gigs (mostly Tursers). Less than fender of course, but then again the "fender" was first.

They may have the same tuner arrangement, but if they have a legitimate legal claim, it will be a simple cease and desist order, and one tuner will get moved up or down on the headstock, no big deal. Further, the dimensions seem to be different, and it's a clearly different headstock design with a bit fat "SX" logo on the front.

Suffice to say, there's no reason to get one's undies in a bunch because there happens to be one more knock off of someone's "sacred cow" brand name.

Who knows, maybe OLP will be prompted to put some quality wood into their instruments.....
 
Well whatever...or however people feel about it Im getting one...Im not under any delusion that it would be close EBMM. I have an OLP and which ever one is better will stay the other will go. Why are people cryng about a knock off anyway? Your acting like its taking money out of your pocket....like you got shares in the company or something...even if you just a dealer this wont stop someone from buying a real MM.

BTW Im pretty sure that this will be a POS...Im not one of the TB guys who think a SX jazz is better than a MIM and comparable to a MIA Jazz (they're far below either). SX's are what they are...Cheapo instruments that seem like a lil bit more that what you pay for.