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TalkBass App To Be REMOVED/DELETED [security concerns]

Hi Paul,

I also think it was a good idea to turn off the app even though I like it. In fact, I appreciate it so much that I'm going to buy a supporting membership.

I do have some suggestions for the mobile version:

1. If you can't do infinite scroll, an "all" feature for reading threads is handy. Muffwiggler (the unfortunately named modular synth site) has implemented this.

2. Variable text size would be good--I find it just big enough on my iPad and a bit small on my iphone. Sometimes if I increase the text size, I have to scroll right or left. Access to Safari's reader function would be even better for readability.
 
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Hello all. I'm writing with some bad news for TalkBass App users: the TalkBass app (rebranded Tapatalk) is going to be deleted from the app stores, and it will no longer work for anyone, because we are going to uninstall the Tapatalk Plugin from our forums on Dec 22nd.

I didn't take this lightly. Every day close to 2,000 TalkBass'ers log in with the app. This is going to hurt our bottom line, and create a huge customer service headache. However, the TalkBass community is our most valuable asset, and the security of your information is our TOP priority....

Ok, so.... WHY TAKE THE APP AWAY?

  1. Security. This is the big one, that my decision is mostly based on. I have good reason to fear that the data of our users may be at high risk of compromise should we continue to run Tapatalk's plugin. Taptalk's own xenforo support forum was hacked last week, with all user data, passwords, and email stolen. The security "culture" at Tapatalk is quite despicable. Security fixes are slow, silent, and misleading. Security issues are ignored, sometimes files are silently fixed and version numbers are not updated, and we forum admins are left in the dark. Lately, multiple XSS vulnerabilities have been discovered in the xenforo tapatalk plugin, and Tapatalk is silently fixing on their site while leaving the xenforo community in the dark.
  2. BUGS. Have been a constant battle. The last straw: The Tapatalk plugin for xenforo throws the software into a loop, sending out duplicate and triplicate alerts to forum watchers. So anyone posting to a highly watched forum (ie, Bass Guitar Classifieds) has to wait sometimes 20+ seconds for their thread to "go through". Result: duplicate threads posted 2x, 3x, even 14x as frustrated users mash the "submit new thread" button. This bug has gone unfixed for over a year.
  3. User Interface Inconsistency. Tapatalk is built to work with stock XenForo. All of our customizations, from Classifieds thumbnails and prices, to Supporting Memberships, to the Media Gallery, to the upcoming Reviews section and Wiki, are all unsupported by the app.
  4. XenForo is 100% responsive. Now with PushBullet push notifications to ALL or ANY of your devices. There's little need for an app whenwww.TalkBass.com automatically formats itself to your mobile device. Simply go to your user menu -> external accounts to turn on PushBullet push notifications (you just need the PushBullet free app, and a free PushBullet account)

I know this decision is going to hurt a lot of folks who love the app. And it will be a 'dealbreaker' for some I'm sure, who will quit TalkBass (please try talkbass in your mobile browser first - you may be surprised!). But I have to act in the best interest of the TalkBass community, and I have no doubt that this decision is doing just that.

Edit: We plan to pull the plug on the app/tapatalk late Dec 22nd.


Do you suggest us changing our current password?
 
Thanks for looking out, but I will definitely miss the app. I will try and subscribe to all posted threads per your idea, but I really, really liked the app's ability to sort those threads for me.

You can set your preferences so that on a going forward basis, any thread you create or post in will automatically be added to your watch list. That will not quite get you the same functionality as that aspect of the app because it won't capture threads you've participated in the past, but it will get you close.

If you give it a chance, I think you may find that the mobile browser version ultimately offers a better experience than the app. That was my experience, anyway. After the site upgrade a few months back, I switched from using the app on both my Android phone and iPad. I initially missed the "participated" feature of the app, but all of the other benefits of the mobile browser version of the site outweighed losing that feature for me.
 
Well since my kids normally have the computer time locked up at the house, I normally use the app. So I'm in the this sucks camp, kind of. You have to do what you have to do and I applaud you for doing the difficult thing. You could have easily chosen to ignore the problem. I am sure that you will find a replacement when a suitable one comes along. I have already removed the mobile app from my phone.

Beyond that I just tried the site thru my Galaxy 3 and it worked well enough. Obviously not as convenient but well enough. If any of you haven't given it a go I do suggest you try it.
 
Oh well. Maybe when Tapatalk loses enough Users they'll take security more seriously. As much as I liked the Ap and its convenience, it's now deleted.

Safari isn't THAT bad. Certainly not bad enough to keep me away.

Thanks for looking out for your Users.
 
This is terrible! I know my usage will drop significantly. The app used so much less data than the full site does when on my phone. I guess the one upside is I will spend more time playing bass and less time on talkbass. Please reinstate the app!!!!
 
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Well a BIG THANK YOU is deserved to the mods of TB for doing something. Most forum sites wouldn't give a crap. I never liked Tapatalk and was always weary of what they do with password info and such. Anything on the internet that is stated to be "free" steals your most important thing... Your ID. Think about it, TapaTalk has all your favorite passwords used for the multi forum user. Not safe considering people are lazy with keeping different passwords for every website they use.

The browser works just as well once you get used to it. You can get email notifications if you want.
 
Is there anyway to put the watched threads and forums button on the bottom of pages as well as the top. If you are going through a bunch of pages it would be easier to hit that at the bottom, than scroll all the way to the top or hit the browsers back button 5 times (which also doesn't clear the thread I was just reading).
 
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Wow, so many whiners on here. I bet they would whine more if hit with identity theft.

Thank you Paul and crew for looking out for us members. As an avid app user, I will miss it but it is certainly no deal breaker. Decisions like this are difficult but makes me glad to be part of a caring community.
 
Thanks admins. My day job often puts me in the same situation. I sympathize and support your tough and potentially unpopular (in the short term) decision towards bigger picture benefits.

I tried the the TB app once very briefly. Using mobile browser (Chrome) on my phone and tablet has always been my preference, and I've never had an issue. In part it's for the consistency of interface on my desktop computers and mobiles. I've often wondered what appealed about the app for folks. The upgraded forum software made it better, as the site seemed more aware of mobile access and delivered the layout accordingly.
 
I think in retrospect I was probably on the mobile web browser more anyways. App was normally behind by a multitude of minutes in regards to notifications and such. I have no problem with this, in light of all the cyber hacking going on. I own an HTC one. When I have questions or I'm curious about something, talkbass will continue to be my go-to. It's all about the.community for me, not saying that's not the case for anybody else.
 
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