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TC Electronics RebelHead 450 - Rebel with a Cause

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I wouldn't say modeling but rather a digital preamp.

and as far as that goes, ProTools and the like do a pretty (and have been doing) a very good job of preamps in the digital realm.

the samples of the TC studio front end that's digital sounds pretty smokin' with a J Bass plugged into it so that's why I think this thing is a leap forward. It's not a company trying to make an amp sound like other bass amps/preamps on the market. It's a well designed/programmed preamp that IS an amp.
 
I wouldn't say modeling but rather a digital preamp.

I'd say they've down-pedaled the fact that everything is happening in the digital realm - and for rather obvious reasons. Because, yes - digital VST/re-amps and other hardware-hosted preamps like the Roland V-Bass, Bass Cube, or D-Basses have sounded nice and functionally are all there. But the general perception among rank-and-file bassists is that both "modeling" and "digital" are dirty words.
 
I'd say they've down-pedaled the fact that everything is happening in the digital realm - and for rather obvious reasons. Because, yes - digital VST/re-amps and other hardware-hosted preamps like the Roland V-Bass, Bass Cube, or D-Basses have sounded nice and functionally are all there. But the general perception among rank-and-file bassists is that both "modeling" and "digital" are dirty words.

I would agree with this. Also, if I have my terms right, the previous two integrated heads that tried this 'digital modeling' type thing (Ashdown Superfly and that Yamaha head) were both IMO worse than terrible (I don't think they were modeling, but they had all the automatic recall stuff and bells and whistles). Even if those two heads were a total different technology, for an EE amateur like me, this smells like the same type of thing. I'm not at all saying it is, but they have a little bit of a 'category perception hole' to climb out of, so your point seems like a good one.

Also, for the most part, amps with lots of bells and whistles were usually consigned to the low end, non pro market, since right or wrong, there is a perception that every dollar spent on fancy lights, internal tuners, and programmable buttons, is a dollar less spent on the power supply, preamp, etc.,etc. Again, not saying it's true, but that's the perception.

I hope this might be the first 'all in one' execution of this 'new category' of modeling heads that actually sounds 'pro level'.

IMO.

One thing I'll say, is the adverstising and the way they announced (wonderful if overwhelming website) sure did create the 'buzz of NAMM' at this point.
 
Although some poster here had experienced quality problems with old tc gear, they are very well regarded in the pro audio community. Multi effects, delay units, compressors and mastering tools etc sound very good (I have a couple myself) and they sure are not expensive for what you get .

However, I am disappointed in how they have chosen to present output power. It is just a number -450W- without ANY conditional data! :confused:
What impedance, distorsion, duration, frequency etc is obviously not relevant. As long as you stay over 4Ohms, you will get 450W! :p

And have you noticed the center frequencies for the bass knob? 71 Hz being the lowest center frequency available, and 280(!) the default. :eyebrow: What were they thinking?
My EBS bass knob goes to 40Hz, and I think THAT is too high!

There is ZERO information on frequence range and SPL numbers on the cabs, too. Hmmm...

I have to guess anyone tempting to get full range and "solid" sound with lots of fundamental out of this rig will be disapponted.

/Alexander from Sweden
 
I signed up to test pilot this rig. Anxious to hear if it'll deliver on acoustic standup as well as solid-body bass guitars. The programmable presets would be a big help to bassists that change instruments on the gig.

Wish you well.
-KLL
 
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