Double Bass TC RH 750 for upright?

[Fred vd W]

The new GK MB heads are really nice for doubling. Not expensive either. I would also agree with the above that the TC heads aren't ideal for Double Bass. Too much compression, although I really like them for electric.

i hear you, but the compression can be switch off so then the sound is realy open for double bass with the TC amp...

reagards,

Fred vd W
the Netherlands

 

[AMJBASS]

The head has a lot of compression built into it(even with the Spectracomp turned all the way off). Part of why they can make a 236 watt amp sound like a 450 watt amp. Its still a killer sounding amplifier, and I wouldn't consider getting rid of mine at all.

 

[Fred vd W]

The head has a lot of compression built into it(even with the Spectracomp turned all the way off). Part of why they can make a 236 watt amp sound like a 450 watt amp. Its still a killer sounding amplifier, and I wouldn't consider getting rid of mine at all.

oke thanks again for your good advice..so that means that Markbass amps and all of the digital amps works like the TC? i had a GK analog amp RB 1001 is analog better than digital?
are you a electric and a acoustic player?because a lot of uprightplayer are using digital amps like GK, TC, and Markbass...

best regards...
Fred vd W
the Netherlands

 

[GrowlerBox]

oke thanks again for your good advice..so that means that Markbass amps and all of the digital amps works like the TC? i had a GK analog amp RB 1001 is analog better than digital?
are you a electric and a acoustic player?because a lot of uprightplayer are using digital amps like GK, TC, and Markbass...

best regards...
Fred vd W
the Netherlands

I think you're confusing Class D power amplifier with "digital" -- that's not what the "D" stands for. The compressed tone of the TCE amps is due to their Active Power Management (APM) circuit, which is designed to behave something like power tubes as they are fed more current. So far, this appears to be unique to TCE, although there is speculation that EBS may be doing something similar with their new "mini" (i.e. not quite "micro") head.

The power amp sections of all these amps are analogue; some of them have some digital emulation built into their front end. There is no particular tone you can ascribe to these amps based purely on their output topology.

 

[Fred vd W]

I think you're confusing Class D power amplifier with "digital" -- that's not what the "D" stands for. The compressed tone of the TCE amps is due to their Active Power Management (APM) circuit, which is designed to behave something like power tubes as they are fed more current. So far, this appears to be unique to TCE, although there is speculation that EBS may be doing something similar with their new "mini" (i.e. not quite "micro") head.

The power amp sections of all these amps are analogue; some of them have some digital emulation built into their front end. There is no particular tone you can ascribe to these amps based purely on their output topology.

thanks again....i send a mail to TC Electronic and the told me that the TC amps are complete digitale (class D) is that not correct? shall i go back to analog? because the TC amp is not uprightbass friendly? or do you know upright players using the TC RH 450 or 750?

regards,

Fred vd W
the Netherlands

 

[GrowlerBox]

thanks again....i send a mail to TC Electronic and the told me that the TC amps are complete digitale (class D) is that not correct? shall i go back to analog? because the TC amp is not uprightbass friendly? or do you know upright players using the TC RH 450 or 750?

regards,

Fred vd W
the Netherlands

As I said, don't get hung up on the amplifier topology -- this is all but irrelevant to the tone when comparing one solid state type to another; the preamp section counts way, way more, and is what lends each amp head its "voice".

While I do use my RH450 for upright, I am definitely happier (for now at least) with my Markbass F1 (with the fdeck HPF-Pre in front). I would neither recommend nor discourage the use of either amp for upright, but they're what I have.

Your speaker cabinet, your bass, your pickup, your technique, and where you play all contribute greatly to what comes out the far end, and it's really difficult to suggest anything that absolutely will work for you, no questions. Most will suggest one of the more "neutral" sounding amplifiers (and have done already in this thread), but sometimes an amp's particular voice will complement the rest of your setup and your playing in predictable ways. I for one, will make do with what I have until I can actually play my next amp with my gear; there are just too many variables to recommend otherwise, in my view.

All opinions to the contrary welcomed and respected, of course!

 

[Fred vd W]

As I said, don't get hung up on the amplifier topology -- this is all but irrelevant to the tone when comparing one solid state type to another; the preamp section counts way, way more, and is what lends each amp head its "voice".

While I do use my RH450 for upright, I am definitely happier (for now at least) with my Markbass F1 (with the fdeck HPF-Pre in front). I would neither recommend nor discourage the use of either amp for upright, but they're what I have.

Your speaker cabinet, your bass, your pickup, your technique, and where you play all contribute greatly to what comes out the far end, and it's really difficult to suggest anything that absolutely will work for you, no questions. Most will suggest one of the more "neutral" sounding amplifiers (and have done already in this thread), but sometimes an amp's particular voice will complement the rest of your setup and your playing in predictable ways. I for one, will make do with what I have until I can actually play my next amp with my gear; there are just too many variables to recommend otherwise, in my view.

All opinions to the contrary welcomed and respected, of course!

Hello,

You helped me a lot and i discovered something interesting! I stopted reading forums and went to a bass store in the Netherlands and played (with my upright) on a expensive Glockenklang soul II the reference for uprightplayers and was suprised that my TC RH 750 almost has the same sound, oke the TC maybay a little bit less clean but i fixed that with my eq!

Cheers,

Fred vd W
Netherlands

 

[GrowlerBox]

Hello,

You helped me a lot and i discovered something interesting! I stopted reading forums and went to a bass store in the Netherlands and played (with my upright) on a expensive Glockenklang soul II the reference for uprightplayers and was suprised that my TC RH 750 almost has the same sound, oke the TC maybay a little bit less clean but i fixed that with my eq!

Cheers,

Fred vd W
Netherlands

I got your PM, but something went awry with the reply ...

Glad if my ramblings were of some use, but it sounds like you've done the needful and compared the RH to an amp you like (not sure everyone would agree that it's the reference for upright players, but a bloody nice amp, by all accounts) and come up trumps .

 

[Fred vd W]

that's true but it was the best amp in the store on that moment!
the problem was my 2x10" vdKley (Dutch speaker builder) i already play with the wonderfull compact EBS neo 112 cabinet so i go for an other 12" The 2x10" sounded to mid range!

Cheers

Fred vd W
the Netherlands