Tech 21 SABDDI V2 with Mids

[Philly Watts]

I tend to favor clean tone but prefer a bassman type clean tone and sometimes would like to hear some svt overdrive, typically light overdrive, but sometimes more. This is for worship. However, I may be using this to front my power amp / cabs for classic rock and roll. Can I get these while defeating the speaker sim per @Philly Watts suggestion? I have looked at the v2 manual settings for these last night, but don't remember off the top of my head. I don't actually have one of these (yet), but was entertaining the idea of getting one if it could do this (bassman/light svt/medium svt/fat tube)

Thanks @Philly Watts and @Al Kraft

No problem! I'm pretty sure if you dial in a tone you like (with or without the blend) you'll still be able to run the omnicabsim with great results. Good luck!

 

[jpTron]

a little late to the party here. Does anyone know if there is anyone that can mod a v2 BDDI to be able to turn the cabsim feature off? I've got an OCSD coming, and that will take care of my cabsim needs.

You looking to do the mod yourself or get someone to do it for you? If the latter ask Mike Putnam from Putnam guitars. He's done lots of mods for people on this forum, myself included, on many different T21 products.

 

[tedsalt]

You looking to do the mod yourself or get someone to do it for you? If the latter ask Mike Putnam from Putnam guitars. He's done lots of mods for people on this forum, myself included, on many different T21 products.

I don't think I'd do this myself. Looks like Mike charges ~$50-60 for this mod.

Thanks @jpTron

 

[tech21nyc]

a little late to the party here. Does anyone know if there is anyone that can mod a v2 BDDI to be able to turn the cabsim feature off? I've got an OCSD coming, and that will take care of my cabsim needs.

We don't have a mod to do that. Our VT Bass DI has the ability to totally bypass the speaker emulation and the Character Series VT Bass pedal (V2) there is a mod to do that. The speaker emulation in our products doesn't use as steep of a curve as some digital speaker sims and were designed to be used with a conventional speaker. On the other a hand a speaker/cab sim isn't strictly a speaker sim. It's the sound of a speaker through a given microphone which is not exactly the same thing .

 

[mattattack187]

I reacquired this pedal, I wasn't too impressed with it the first time around but decided to give it another chance. I do find it harder to dial in a tone I like compared to the original version. I find it adds a lot more thickness and obviously the presence is voiced a little differently than the previous. I did find some decent tones after having the time to play around with the eq, blend, presence, etc. My basses also desperately need new strings as I don't have as much time to play anymore and it's probably been a year since they've been changed. I'm sure that will help as well. Still not sure what to think but I'm starting to figure it out.

 

[mattattack187]

Just for info...I spoke with Tech 21 this morning and (in layman's terms) they confirmed that they did in fact remove one of the mid scoop filter circuits when they added in the new variable mid control. There is still some inherent mid-scoop with the (bass treble and mid) EQ controls at noon, but it is less of a scoop than the original with the bass and treble controls at noon.

For those who want to get the original version's degree of scoop centered around that roughly 750-850 Hz point, Tech 21 recommends turning the mid control back to about 11 o'clock or so with either the 500 Hz or 1000 Hz frequency setting. With a touch of experimenting you should get very close to the voicing on the original version.

I think this helps explain why so many people are hearing the new version as having a slightly different "neutral/default" voicing than the previous one...it actually does! It makes sense to me that you would not want to simply layer in a variable mid filter over two other fixed filters if providing more flexibility in the mids and doing it smoothly/musically is your goal.

I'm sure tech21nyc will jump in and correct anything I may have mis-characterized, but I think I got it right!

I was one of the folks that preferred the original BDDI tone to the V2 and I played around with the EQ some more last night and was able to find that original BDDI tone to an extent. I dropped the Mid and Bass down to about 1030 and was able to find it by playing around with the drive and presence. Takes a little more boost on the presence than the original. I usually keep the Blend at 50%.

 

[Al Kraft]

I was one of the folks that preferred the original BDDI tone to the V2 and I played around with the EQ some more last night and was able to find that original BDDI tone to an extent. I dropped the Mid and Bass down to about 1030 and was able to find it by playing around with the drive and presence. Takes a little more boost on the presence than the original. I usually keep the Blend at 50%.

Seems very close to what I would have expected based on Tech21 info and my own experimenting. The only thing I think the V1 does have that is very hard to get out of the V2 is the ability to get a more raw tone/voicing. The V2 is definitely a more refined voicing, which actually works well for what I do.