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Tech 21 SansAmp Bass Driver DI V2 Question

Hi Everyone,

I think I read somewhere the output of the BDDI has a built in cabsim. Does anyone know what this is based on? (8x10, 2x15, 2x12 etc)

Also, is this only on the XLR out and not the 1/4 out?

Is this fixed or only present when the BDDI is engaged / does the blend function determine how much of the cabsim is included within the final sound?

Thanks

Mike
 
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Hi Everyone,

I think I read somewhere the output of the BDDI has a built in cabsim. Does anyone know what this is based on? (8x10, 2x15, 2x12 etc)

Also, is this only on the XLR out and not the 1/4 out?

Is this fixed or only present when the BDDI is engaged / does the blend function determine how much of the cabsim is included within the final sound?

Thanks

Mike
Hi there,
i believe I've read over the years it is a close miked 10" speaker? Like from an Ampeg 8x10 fridge?
I might be wrong though?
Hope this helps,
Brent
 
Hi Everyone,

I think I read somewhere the output of the BDDI has a built in cabsim. Does anyone know what this is based on? (8x10, 2x15, 2x12 etc)

Also, is this only on the XLR out and not the 1/4 out?

Is this fixed or only present when the BDDI is engaged / does the blend function determine how much of the cabsim is included within the final sound?

Thanks

Mike

The cabsim is on the 1/4 out also (but not on the parallel 1/4 out). The cabsim is only active when the LED is ON. The blend sets balance between clean sound and drive/amp/cabsim sound.

When the BDDI is disengaged (LED off) it is 'just' an active DI (no EQ).

Edit: almost forgot, but everytime the BDDI is mentioned I link to this post/thread. It has frequency measurements which can give more insight on what the BDDI does/what you can expect.

B7K & BDDI eq and blend measurements
 
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The speaker emulation is a mild analog EQ curve that is designed to work directly into a full range system as well as a traditional bass guitar speaker.

The Parallel output is hard wired to the input. This is a common feature with DI's.

The Blend control when turned all the way left bypasses the amp and speaker emulation. As the Blend is increased the SansAmp circuit is mixed in with your un-effected signal. If the Blend is up full the SansAmp circuit is at 100%.
 
The speaker emulation is a mild analog EQ curve that is designed to work directly into a full range system as well as a traditional bass guitar speaker.

The Parallel output is hard wired to the input. This is a common feature with DI's.

The Blend control when turned all the way left bypasses the amp and speaker emulation. As the Blend is increased the SansAmp circuit is mixed in with your un-effected signal. If the Blend is up full the SansAmp circuit is at 100%.
Perfect explanation, and great customer service this!!

Do you know what the speaker emulation is based on? i'm guessing the classic 8x10?
 
The speaker emulation varies with each product and is tuned by ear. The speaker sim in the Bass Driver is more of a generic curve since it covers more than one specific amp emulation. You have the ability to fine tune the speaker sim and overall sound with the post SansAmp EQ.
 
Hijacking this slightly-recent thread a little rather than making my own. But recently I've been wondering to myself what I would like to see if there were a BDDI v3.
I've tried to sort-of temper my 'expectations' as it were, even though I have no actual Expectation that it would be happening at all! No reason to believe it is coming (unless T21 feel like surprising me with a nudge-nudge wink-wink ofc).
The 'tempering' more-or-less takes this form: As much as I would like "Programmable"-style switches and functionality on a normal BDDI-sized box, the mechanically moving pots are something I have to assume would use up too much space for that form factor. My thinking, then, would be that I think I would really enjoy a 'channel' switch, and I think a switch where the channels are only two separate Drive pots rather than whole separate EQ sections would be enough for me, too.
The other thing that would make this an insta-buy for me would be an effects loop. I've actually wondered before about the feasibility of modding an extra input jack in before the XLR out as a 'return', and using the ordinary Output jack as the 'send'. But I'm very very confident that would be beyond my own capabilities!
One thing I'm NOT really concerned about would be a VTDI-style speaker sim defeat function. I'm definitely in the camp agreeing with T21 that the sim sounds great through a real cab anyway. But, if it were in there, it's not like the option would upset me, and it'd open up options for people.
So, in short, what I want is represented by a few products that T21 already offers...
PBDDI: No loop, but the programmable presets are very very cool. My biggest concern with this is that the Mid pot on the BDDI seems very useful even though I do indeed trust T21 when they say that bass and treble adjustments are worth using to adjust mids.
BD Deluxe: It's the PBDDI, but with an effects loop (and multi-instrument if needed)! It more or less ticks my boxes, with the aforementioned mid pot caveat. But another caveat is that it's out of production; Reverb listings don't seem unreasonably rare, though.
Bass FlyRig 2: I think that, frankly, this thing more-or-less answers every ask I have and way more. It seems like an extremely good piece of kit. My nitpicks with it are almost petty, really. 1: I would prefer to lose some of its features if it meant having a normal SansAmp form factor. 2: I really think that black and yellow is earnestly such a cool and, dare I say it, Legendary look!! It's a very petty thing but it is honest-to-goodness a thing that is hugely appealing to me about the BDDI.
Rambling done now though. I know there are a lot of other options out there outside of the SansAmp realm, nowadays, that scratch many if not all of my particular itches as outlined here. But I really love the BDDI sound in every single demo I've experienced and the simplicity of it is hugely appealing. I am very very into how the BDDI seems more-or-less impossible to get a bad sound out of.
 
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