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Teen drinking
- Thread starter David Jayne
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We're talking about a parent who lets their kids' friends drink at a party at their house, not a rape in progress, or someone physically harming your family. If you want to stretch "physically harming" and have that include allowing your kid to have a beer, then it makes a little sense.
If your course of action in response to the OP is to go beat the S out of the parent in question instead of calling the PoPo, that's a decision on your part that I have to question.
If your course of action in response to the OP is to go beat the S out of the parent in question instead of calling the PoPo, that's a decision on your part that I have to question.
Thank you and yes, I will. Post #36 was in response to another question, and I apologize for veering off topic.
Let's keep in mind this isn't a parent/child bonding moment. It is a party that is going to run 20 or more deep. Hypothetically.
Assuming the dad in question really is just trying to create a safe controlled environment for some legal yet underage adults, (that just sounds so weird), to have a little fun fine I get it. I still would not do it.
But if he is "that guy" who is trying to live his past vicariously through his daughter and her friends than it has disaster written all over it.
I personally would not put myself anywhere near a situation like this.
"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." Bulls**t. Social media people.
Remember, the "kids" don't really have much to lose. A fine and probation maybe. Unless, of course they get stopped for DUI or worse involved in a DUI manslaughter.
Do other parents know?
Is it a car key lock down party?
Is the property out in the sticks?
Will there be other "supervisors"?
What about guns?
If the s**t hits the fan guess who the responsibility, or blame, ultimately falls upon? Not to mention what is potentially at stake for the "responsible" one in charge.
Possible loss of property, respect, finances, freedom...you get the point.
Again, way too much liability and potential for disaster.
Assuming the dad in question really is just trying to create a safe controlled environment for some legal yet underage adults, (that just sounds so weird), to have a little fun fine I get it. I still would not do it.
But if he is "that guy" who is trying to live his past vicariously through his daughter and her friends than it has disaster written all over it.
I personally would not put myself anywhere near a situation like this.
"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." Bulls**t. Social media people.
Remember, the "kids" don't really have much to lose. A fine and probation maybe. Unless, of course they get stopped for DUI or worse involved in a DUI manslaughter.
Do other parents know?
Is it a car key lock down party?
Is the property out in the sticks?
Will there be other "supervisors"?
What about guns?
If the s**t hits the fan guess who the responsibility, or blame, ultimately falls upon? Not to mention what is potentially at stake for the "responsible" one in charge.
Possible loss of property, respect, finances, freedom...you get the point.
Again, way too much liability and potential for disaster.
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Recently one of my co-worker's daughters graduated from high school. He let the girl and her friends have a party at their beach house and he bought beer and wine for them. He got them to promise there would be no hard liquor, he kept all their car keys and stayed upstairs at the house to make sure no one drove or got out of control. I thought that was a pretty good way to handle it. They're all but certain to get drunk that night, and he did his best to make sure they did it (relatively) safely.
I can't decide if I would have done that myself if I had kids. I would want them to be safe, but I would still be nervous about liability issues. Anything less controlled than that, I definitely would not do it.
I can't decide if I would have done that myself if I had kids. I would want them to be safe, but I would still be nervous about liability issues. Anything less controlled than that, I definitely would not do it.
Okay, I gotta ask - what's the difference between hard liquor and any other type of alcohol? It will all do the same thing to you given the "right" amount of drinks.
Either you have a very strong constitution or you don't get out much. Hard liquor is taken to excess far more easily than standard brews of grape or barley.
I guess my Irish is better than most. A few glasses of wine will get me quicker than a few well mixed whiskies. Either way, alcohol is alcohol and will get you given enough juice.
Spirits in highball glasses at parties tend to 3 fingers of spirt topped with mixer, don't taste overly dangerous and go down in a few slugs. More than a glass of wine worth of alcohol. Party over.
Generally speaking, 1 shot = 1 glass of wine = 1 can of beer.
Also, generally speaking, 17-18 year olds aren't drinking wine. They're drinking Smirnoff and Bud light. Maybe some Jack, and maybe some Keystone light, and even some occasional Jager-bombs, but definitely not wine.
Also, generally speaking, 17-18 year olds aren't drinking wine. They're drinking Smirnoff and Bud light. Maybe some Jack, and maybe some Keystone light, and even some occasional Jager-bombs, but definitely not wine.
Hard liquor in big bottles freely poured makes tasty beverages of multiple alco units that go down like lemonade.
I wish there was an emoticon that could adequately express how I feel about that. But it's beyond current technology. That man is truly dancing with fire. That's 'go-to-prison' level stupidity. Sounds like a good way to handle it? Sure. Until one of the kids needs to be rushed to the hospital and almost dies after being dared to slam a bunch of vodka. Happened here recently. Kid goes to hospital on your watch? You're in Big Trouble. How is it possible for anyone to justify the risk?
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Also, in my totally unscientific and anecdotal experience, liquor often affects people differently than other forms of alcohol. It's not uncommon for someone who is normally a happy or docile drunk on beer or wine to be belligerent and dangerous when their intoxication is due to liquor.
Then hopefully when they become of legal age, they discover that there's actually good beer out there.
As a 17 year old, I personally think its fine to party (go figure) and drink WITH proper preparation. Make sure the parents of the kids know if they'll be drinking or not, arrange designated drivers, look out for your friends. Sometimes the liability risk can be a little dicey, but if you only invite those who can handle themselves and are familiar with the homeowners, its generally OK.
OK so the party came and went and nobody died. I still say it's a bad idea.
