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That 'Punk bass' sound.

Hey guys. I'm new here and im glad i've found bass owners who probably know what im on about when i ask what bass/basses are best for acheiving the kind of sound you would hear from green day, rancid and other bands like that. I believe P-basses with the tone on full are often used but are there any basses around the £200 mark that can acheive it?

i was pretty sure the Squier vintage modified P-bass would come close due to it's duncan designed pickups?

thanks guys
 
He normally uses a Precision, but back in the Op Ivy days he used an Aria Pro II SB.

I remember reading somewhere that he does all the recordings using a 60's J bass

In all honesty, it doesnt matter what kind of bass you use.

Use stainless steel roundwound strings, always keep a fresh set on.
Play with a pick.
Bump the mids and treble a bit on the amp.


I quite like the punk tone I use:

Stingray HH (in the position using the two outer coils of each pup) -> Ampeg SVT-II -> Marshall VBC810

Usually get compliments on the tone :)
 
Actually it also depends on what kind of punk you're talking about.
If you're talking about the "classical" punk sound go fat, lots of bass and lose some of the mids.
If you're talking about a more gritty punk so, you could try dropping the bass (even to 0) and raising the mids and treble(even maxing them).

It doesn't really that much which bass you use, you should try some of the suggested basses and see which one has the punk sound you're looking for.
 
Freeman has used Jazzes too, but I believe he has recorded primarilly with an old ('76 maybe) P-bass. There are some interviews and such on youtube. He has had since the OP Iv days.

P-bass, Rounds, Ampeg, Pick, no effects.

Contrary to popular belief, these guys don't use cheapo gear. They may have back when they were grinding it out in bars and sleeping in the car, but not on any of the records you've heard in the last 15+ years.
 
I remember reading somewhere that he does all the recordings using a 60's J bass

In all honesty, it doesnt matter what kind of bass you use.

Use stainless steel roundwound strings, always keep a fresh set on.
Play with a pick.
Bump the mids and treble a bit on the amp.

There are a few recording that really can't be Jazz basses, most of them do sound like he's using a Jazz, but album 5 sound like he's used a P to me. It's been a while since I've heard it, so I can't remember how much his sound changes on the ablum as a whole, but there a some where I'd be really surprised if it was a Jazz he was using. GGF sounds like he's using a Jazz though.

Can't say I agree with the stainless steel thing though, I never really see any punk bass players use them, although I'm sure they sound good for it. Not my kinda thing though, bit bright for my liking.

cough SX cough

If your gonna buy cheap and live in the states, that's gonna be a much better bet then a Squire from what I've heard.

Basically the 3 generic punk sounds seem to be at the moment;

Jazz - quite alot of presence and high end usually, quite often used with alot of distortion - e.g. Rise Against, Bouncing Souls

Precision - bit deeper sounding in the mids then a jazz, susually used with a mid heavy EQ to exaggerate the already mid heavy sound, again usually overdiven, not quite as much as Jazzes seem to be overdriven nowadays though - e.g. Blink 182, NOFX (before Fat Mike started using a Danelectro)

Stingray - usually used for a even more exaggerated high end - e.g. Less Then Jake, latest Propagandhi

Those are just typical modern sounds, by no means all you can get from them, Klaus Fluoride gets the deepest tone I've heard in punk out of his Jazz. Don't feel there's any particular bass you have to use for punk, it's mostly you use them to get an aggressive punk sound. Just play about with your EQ and you'll often get what you need. Remember the amp you use is almost as important as the bass.

The conventions generally are one of those 3 basses, Ampeg SVT + 8x10, plenty of mids (and more commonly nowadays alot of treble too), new strings as often as possible, and playing hard with a pick. The punk bass sound has got real expensive, as seven has said, alot of people spend alot of money on sounding gritty nowadays.
 
There are a few recording that really can't be Jazz basses, most of them do sound like he's using a Jazz, but album 5 sound like he's used a P to me. It's been a while since I've heard it, so I can't remember how much his sound changes on the ablum as a whole, but there a some where I'd be really surprised if it was a Jazz he was using. GGF sounds like he's using a Jazz though.

Can't say I agree with the stainless steel thing though, I never really see any punk bass players use them, although I'm sure they sound good for it. Not my kinda thing though, bit bright for my liking.

May be wrong about that then, was sure it was a Jazz he recorded with an played live with a P, but, not really listened to them for a while. The budget they will have for recording, they will be able to make any bass sound like whatever they want it to sound like.

I think it's all about that bright twang, but then again, punk has more tonal varieties than most people give it credit for. For long enough I gigged with my ATK with flats on it, I was just going by what I'd think the conventions are, when the fact is, there aint no convention, play whatever you want :bassist:

That has gotten me in the mood to crack out my Ibanez EDA905 and play some piezo punk!:bassist: