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The bar for playing out is set way to low

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lfmn16

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The drummer for my Rockabilly trio plays with another band, a "pick-up" band where the BL books gigs and then whoever is available shows. He was playing six blocks from my house, so I thought I'd go see them.

It was awful, amateur hour in the worst possible way. Their setlist consisted of every tired, overplayed song you've ever heard; Sweet Home Alabama, Taking Care of Business, Fire (Springsteen). The equipment was cheap; the PA was distorted even though they played at a low volume, the "lead" guitarist was playing with an old solid state head and some kind of cheap PA cabinet and using the reedy, buzzy, fuzzy tone on every lead.

They didn't play a single song within spitting distance of right. It was really clear that they were playing off memory, blatantly reading lyrics on music stands right in front of them, eyes glued to the page. They were just going through the motions, just lifeless, generic readings of these tunes. The BL kept turning his back to the audience shouting out instructions as they were playing.

The BL wasn't a bad singer, but he just read the words and didn't know a lot of the melodies very well. The "lead" guitarist was just an awful singer, monotone, almost whispering, reading the lyrics, didn't know the melodies of the tunes he was singing, just embarrassing to watch.

The BL didn't bother to tune his guitar before he started and it was really badly out of tune the entire set. The last song of the set was "I can't help falling in love with you" and when he hit the opening out of tune chord, I just cringed. How do you not hear that???? :rollno:

If this is the best effort your band can put out, please stay home and stop giving live music a bad name. The saddest part of this story is that they work 5 or 6 times a month. The bar needs to be raised and clubs need to stop hiring "bands" like this.

The one bright spot, besides the drummer, was the bass player. Except for an ill-advised solo, he played really solid lines and he and the drummer kept things from being a train wreck.

OK, rant over.
 
I'm right there with you. Be prepared.

We are about to get smacked down with all kinds of self righteous speeches telling us that is it "My right to gig whenever I want, even if my band sucks".

We will also here from the crowd that says "If your band was so amazing hack bands wouldn't be dragging your price down".

Most of the bands in my market are just what you described. I have ranted about it here until I'm blue in the face.

It's a way for hacks to blow off steam. Their jobs suck, family lives suck, etc. They don't care that they suck. They don't care what you or I think. They want to get under the lights and play in public. Everything else can suck it.
 
I'm right there with you. Be prepared.

We are about to get smacked down with all kinds of self righteous speeches telling us that is it "My right to gig whenever I want, even if my band sucks".

We will also here from the crowd that says "If your band was so amazing hack bands wouldn't be dragging your price down".

Most of the bands in my market are just what you described. I have ranted about it here until I'm blue in the face.

It's a way for hacks to blow off steam. Their jobs suck, family lives suck, etc. They don't care that they suck. They don't care what you or I think. They want to get under the lights and play in public. Everything else can suck it.
I'm ready!

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Well, at least they're actually out playing somewhere. Much better, in my opinion, than spending time "preparing" to play live and never actually leaving your living room.
This is true....and I think it’s great if they are new players or a new group trying to get it together and are honest about flaws. New musicians and more amateur groups should have opportunities to perform, sharpen skills, etc. However, I take issue when they pass themselves off as something they are not and/or low ball other professional groups out of gigs.
 
Booking gigs is a skill, and something few people like to do. Just a thought. Invite the BL to one of your rehearsals or gigs and have a talk. Perhaps he can learn the errors of his musical ways, and you can get more gigs as a foursome (if he can up his game), or he can hand over some gigs to you for a cut.
But I feel your pain.
 
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Live local music seems to be in a somewhat downward spiral. The good guys and gals are playing casino gigs, festivals and acoustic shows because they need to get paid.
The bars here are paying less and less and the that pulls a lower caliber band, which attracts less people, which lowers the pay and the cycle continues.
Also keep in mind that there is a value to people’s time. So your guy/gal that’s taking that $3-500 a man gig on Friday night at a casino probably isn’t going to want to haul his stuff out to play that $50-$100 a man show at the local watering hole on Saturday.
 
Live local music seems to be in a somewhat downward spiral. The good guys and gals are playing casino gigs, festivals and acoustic shows because they need to get paid.
The bars here are paying less and less and the that pulls a lower caliber band, which attracts less people, which lowers the pay and the cycle continues.
Also keep in mind that there is a value to people’s time. So your guy/gal that’s taking that $3-500 a man gig on Friday night at a casino probably isn’t going to want to haul his stuff out to play that $50-$100 a man show at the local watering hole on Saturday.
This is a good observation, clubs pay less and less over the years and subsequently attract amateur acts that will play for nearly free(and sound that way). More professional acts have moved to casinos, festivals and small acoustic type gigs....same in my area.
 
Well, at least they're actually out playing somewhere. Much better, in my opinion, than spending time "preparing" to play live and never actually leaving your living room.
If those were the only two choices I would agree with you, but they aren't. You can actually learn songs and then play them live. We're not talking about Rush, King Crimson, Yes; we're talking about classic rock with three chords.
 
This is a good observation, clubs pay less and less over the years and subsequently attract amateur acts that will play for nearly free(and sound that way). More professional acts have moved to casinos, festivals and small acoustic type gigs....same in my area.

Yep. The number of venues holding the bar up for professional-level live music has dwindled. They're not paying anything so who cares? If the band can bring their friends and family in to drink a couple of beers, that's all that matters now.
 
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