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The Church gig thing

I been playing in the rc, off and on for almost fifty years. I would 80 to 90 percent of some of the music we played was hymnal based. In last 20 years, it's gotten to be 98 to 99 percent. If my memory of classes serves me correctly, there are 4 levels of music, with hymns being the lowest level.
In our parish church, we have had bass players for at least 20 years. This includes upright. I have not seen organ music in the parish for at least 15 years. The last keyboard about 5 years ago.
In the rc, minimum music in a service, is 11 songs. Four or five which are hymns.
When I lived in Germany in the 80s, the church service was very classic traditional off the air base. Hymns....some in Latin could be heard often in acapella. Here in Fort Wayne, at Saint Michael's where I play Saturday afternoon service with the group Life Song, it is Contemporary Christian music about 8 to 9 songs. There is no organ. Now, at Mount Calvary where I play for the group Golgotha on Sun mornings, there is a huge pipe organ that the Music Director plays for early service. We play 3 to 5 songs. Some are Contemporary Christian, some are traditional hymnal based songs about a 50/50 mix. Most of the time there is no blass player unless I am there and there is not a lead guitar player. The MC plays piano and/or guitar depending on the song. He is quite an accomplished pianist and I am hard pressed to learn the music. I have been at this for just over two years. It is interesting how the music varies from one Lutheran Church to another in the same town.
 
For me the issue has been pay or the lack of.

I started at my current church as a paid Bassist, but by my choice I've been playing for free for over a year.

In that time, I've also picked up the sound man and MD duties for the church at no pay.

I truly believe churches should pay their skilled players based on how the Levite's of the temple were compensated in Leviticus.

I've been in many churches where the churches are willing to pay for a solid bass player until the program is established and then ask players to play for free.

I have 2 degrees in Music and my first question to them is "Do you ask members of the church who are accounts, plumbers or HVAC specialist to perform their services for free?"

As an MD, if the player is paid for the service they can be held accountable to a performance standard. For a new church with young Christians, stability and consistency are key factors and this helps with stability and consistency.

There is nothing wrong with providing services for free, but it is my hope that the churches understand the value of the free services many musicians provide.

Your thoughts and comments are welcome.

DS
What I noticed right away when I first moved to Ft. Wayne, IN from California is the high rate of volunteerism in this city. People volunteer for almost everything here.The same is true of the musicians who play at the various churches in the area. The Music Directors are the paid staff member and the musicians are the volunteer staff and that seems to be the expected arrangement. My wife owns a face painting business and she is often asked if she does face painting for free. She uses the same argument...Do you ask your plumber, electrician, doctor, lawyer etc. to work for free? There is a well entrenched devaluation of the arts and the people who are artists whether it be face painting or musicianship here. Many churches here are struggling just to have enough people for a praise team. This is the case at Mount Calvary. It is not the case at Saint Michael's where there are four praise teams, Two Contemporary Christian, One Americana, and One Blue Grass. There is the choir group, a handbell group and a musical puppet show group (which is very good I might add).
The music director at Mount Calvary is toying with the idea of a musicians' pool in the Lutheran network where if a church is short a musician say a bass player, one could be contacted to fill in to cover the need. I like the idea myself because playing at more than one church is making me a better player because I have to learn to work with a different group of people who have a different taste and style of performance. I am also learning many more songs than I normally would if I just played for one church. Each praise team tends to favor a certain set of songs so the more praise teams that I am involved with, the more experience I get playing songs and not necessarily in the same keys. St. Michael's praise teams does one song in G but Mount Calvary does the same song in A. Nashville number system helps here. I am digressing here, sorry.
The idea here in Ft Wayne, is that church musicians are playing for the Lord and that should be its own reward without compensation. However, I still view church performances as a "gig" because I am playing before a live audience. The experience of playing in front of a congregation has made me a better player...overcoming stage fright, learning to work in a group, meeting deadlines, etc. Since I have signed up for Sweetwater Sound Music Academy, the Build a Band program. I am looking forward to playing to an audience outside of a church venue. Like all artistic pursuits, you have to continue to push yourself beyond your comfort zone to improve.
 
Hi all !
I m from France and spend a loooot of time reading threads here in TB.
One thing that always question me is when I read about church gig, church band, church PA etc..

Can someone please explain me the whole concept ?
In US church there are gigs ? Some religious songs ? After the praises and stuff like that ?

Hmmm I guess this is not like the church gig in Tommy !

Check these guys out. They take actual sermons and edit them to heavier music.

 
I have 2 degrees in Music and my first question to them is "Do you ask members of the church who are accounts, plumbers or HVAC specialist to perform their services for free?"
S

Just speaking for my church, a lot of people with special skills do donate their time to the church. Our MD gets a small stipend, but considering all he does, he's making a big contribution. He's a retired school principal, so he can do that. The only other people who are paid are the pastor, the secretary and the custodian, all full time jobs. If we had to hire out every fix-it project, IT problem, gardening, etc, we'd never make budget. We have folks teaching sunday school every week. Should they get paid? If we paid the muscians, then do we pay each choir member? They put as much work into their role each week as I do playing bass. What it comes down to is we are all glad to contribute in our own ways to the life of the church.
 
Just speaking for my church, a lot of people with special skills do donate their time to the church. Our MD gets a small stipend, but considering all he does, he's making a big contribution. He's a retired school principal, so he can do that. The only other people who are paid are the pastor, the secretary and the custodian, all full time jobs. If we had to hire out every fix-it project, IT problem, gardening, etc, we'd never make budget. We have folks teaching sunday school every week. Should they get paid? If we paid the muscians, then do we pay each choir member? They put as much work into their role each week as I do playing bass. What it comes down to is we are all glad to contribute in our own ways to the life of the church.
Yeah, we do it because we want to do it for the life of the church.
 
I ran a bingo for a church. It was my policy to pay what the electrician, the plumber, the hvac people asked. I recieved no flak, from the pastor. It was surprising how many discounted their services. I did not ask for the discounts. I agree that services requested need to be paid.
 
I just completed an invoice just now for face painting for a local church and gave them 10% off our normal rate because the event is for their school kids. The client did not ask for the discount, I just gave it to her. Services requested do need to be paid but a little break on the total price never hurts especially when kids are involved.:bassist:
 
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I definitely see playing in a worship team or as a solo musician/singer as different than a gig in clubs, bars, parties, concerts, etc

It has a different feel and intention to it for me.

While both involve okaying for others, possibly with others, they have different goals in my mind.

The Church "gig" is not a performance, at least int he same way the other ones are.
I have been in churches where it seemed like that though--and it distracts from what I see as the purpose.

That said--use what instruments you have that fit the congregation's overall style & theological bent.