The Cure Bass sound?

[Irmantas]

Hey guys,

I was wondering how to create a bass sound similar to The Cure bassist Simon Gallup?

 

[Feral Feline]

From which era, which album, which song?


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The Cure's Simon Gallup | TalkBass.com

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I have one compilation album from the Cure, (beginning to 1884 or so) and he's done wonderful things on bass. I don't play with a pick, but I like to sounds he gets ...
The Cure (Michael Dempsey, Simon Gallup, Phil Thornally ...

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The Cure - Simon Gallup - Hollywood Pantages | TalkBass.com

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Nov 22, 2011 - The first three Cure albums played in their entirety + B sides. A fan's dream. Robert played a Fender VI bass on a couple of songs as well.
Looking for a Simon Gallup-esque sound | TalkBass.com

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May 17, 2011 - Hey, HUGE Cure & Simon Gallup fan here. First, I really hope you realize he's using Rickenbacker for this song. He only used the Thunderbird on ...
How can I achieve the tone of Simon Gallup in the album Faith ...

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Oct 27, 2013 - How can I achieve the tone of Simon Gallup in the album Faith of The Cure?
How much do you like Simon Gallup? | TalkBass.com

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May 17, 2010 - I think Simon Gallup is fantastic, very tasty basslines, I was a big fan of The Cure back in the 80's although I am sure he did not play on all of ...
The Cure - Freakshow - Simon Gallup | TalkBass.com

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Jun 18, 2008 - Didn't get to see this at the concert I attended, but it nice to see Simon playing a J-Bass in The Cure's latest release. Freakshow [media]
Help me to get this sound!! Simon Gallup | TalkBass.com

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Oct 1, 2008 - (The Cure NDR) S. G : Yeah, but I didn’t really get involved with the sound in the studio. …It goes heavy on the bottom, I take out ...
The Cure's Simon Gallup- Magspies/Foolsdance | TalkBass.com

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fans of Simon Gallup check this mp3 out- a record of the band he was in before The Cure- Magspies. pretty upfront bassplaying-...
Simon Gallup on "Fascination Street" | TalkBass.com

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Nov 6, 2017 - Mainly because of Simon Gallup's buzzy bass tone that somehow ... "Smith said in 1992, "I think when people talk about the 'Cure sound', they ...
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[stambroker]

A lot of Disintegration Era was a mix of Smith with a Bass VI and Simon with a ton of Chorus/flanger. Simon used the Boss BF-2 nonstop. Like feral said, it depends on which album.

 

[WillyW]

Ha I’m watching the 40th anniversary concert now.

He has used so much different gear over the years.

 

[Mushroo]

You've gotten some good gear suggestions, but it's also really important to study Simon Gallup's technique if you want to sound like him.

Right hand, he has excellent pick-style technique, with good control and economy of motion. He doesn't seem to flail away as aggressively at the strings as a lot of other rock bassists, and he uses upstrokes as well as downstrokes. You'll notice he wears his bass slung rather low, which helps to keep his right wrist straight.

Left hand, he has good fingerboard knowledge and tends to shift up and down the neck, as opposed to playing across the strings. He is comfortable in all registers of the instrument. He tends to use a loose or floating left thumb (as opposed to using his thumb as a pivot or fulcrum on the back of the neck) which prevents "death grip" and facilitates easy shifting.

And of course, Simon Gallup is a team player and has a strong sense of time, neither of which can be achieved with effects pedals.

 

[boristhespider7]

Fender P or musicman with a Boss flanger and Boss CE-5 chorus, with occasional Bass IV thrown in (although this may also be played by Rob Smith)

 

[Feral Feline]

Preach it Mushroo!

 

[Nick von Nick]

Here's how I mimic Simon Gallup on my PJ:

• Always activate the BF-2 Flanger (like whoa!)
• Play with a Pick
• Dime out my tone knob - no treble rolloff
• Bass- and Treble-boosted and Mid-scooped (aka smiley face) EQ. I read an interview with Simon where he noted that his curve looks like a big "V"

I've spent most of my musical life idolizing this kind of music, so I would recommend listening to the nuances of his playing. The same applies to a lot of Post-Punk, New Wave, and Goth bassists (Peter Hook, Steven Severin, Mick Karn, Jah Wobble, Tina Weymouth...). The lines of some of the most iconic songs are often simple harmonic pumps, such as "Fascination Street," but there is a feel to them you can't phone in. It's an organic approach to something robotic that still needs to be both mechanical and distinctly human at the same time. That's the aesthetic.

Spooky!

~Nick von Nick

 

[Irmantas]

@Nick von Nick thanks! BF-2 Flanger is awesome. Maybe you know what particular chorus pedal Simon Gallup been using most of the time?

 

[Nick von Nick]

@Nick von Nick thanks! BF-2 Flanger is awesome. Maybe you know what particular chorus pedal Simon Gallup been using most of the time?

I did some quick hunting, and it looks like a Boss CE-5. I know that he and Robert Smith are huge boss aficionados. Below is a snippet from an article someone posted on Equipboard. It actually seems to confirm what I had read about his mid-scooped sound ("on a graphic EQ the shape is like a chevron").
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Best!
~NvN

 

[feliperigby]

I have Line 6 Helix.
And I´m trying to achieve his kind of sound.
The bass that I use here is an Yamaha BB734a.
I´m trying with the amp simulation: Ampeg SVT Classic, 8x10 IR ampeg cab sim and effects: Dimension (based on Roland Dimension D), Harmonic Flanger (based on A/DA Flange) and have in bypass the Stupor Od (based on BOSS SD-1 Overdrive).

It´s not 100% accurated but, IMOH it´s sounding good.

 

[winterburn69]

He has used so much different gear over the years.

He’s used so many different basses over the years. I think gear implies he switches all his gear up, he’s pretty much just basses.

He’s had pretty much the same all Boss pedalboard since the ‘80s (switching out drive pedals for newer Boss ones. He also switched out the CE-2 for the CE-5 and DM-? for the DD-3).

Last time I checked he was using a CE-5, BF-2, DD-3 and ODB-3.

And amp-wise he’s used Peavey and Ampeg.

For The Cure I personally use a BF-2, CE-2W, DD-5 and a Tronographic Rusty Box. I find the Boss dirt pedals don’t cut it. There’s so many better options out there.

 

[thedovewarlord]

Absolutely agree with other posters, a huge part of Simon Gallup's sound is his technique, to state further, his sense of time and his creatively crafted syncopated phrases. Repetitive lines mostly, but with each & pass his phrasing and inflections vary creating a conversational (in my opinion, similar to Keith Richards' Godlike rhythm).

The most difficult aspect of Fascination Street sound isn't the flanger & chorus, I can achieve that on a few different choruses & flangers, but THAT grind.... wow.... I've tried everything and it still escapes me. I dont use rounds which I know would make a huge leap, but there's something digital & tube. I dont know.

 

[thedovewarlord]

 

[Irmantas]

@feliperigby I have Line 6 POD HD500 is it possible to do something similar to what you said?
Thanks

 

[feliperigby]

Depends, I don´t know which bass amp models has on the hd500... And the cab simulations are just the stock ones, no IR (impulse responses).
The Dimension is a line 6 effects from older models and the flanger and distortion you should take I look in the effects list of the HD500 to see If they have anything similar to A/Da Flange and the Boss SD-1 Overdrive.
But also what I friend said up there, there are a lot of other distortions available in the modelers that sound better than the Boss ones..

 

[feliperigby]

I would crank a little the distortion and the chorus...

But is good!

 

[Warlock_Surfer]

I wonder if it's the Flanger into a Chorus or Chorus pushing the Flanger? Either way it's such a brilliant sound. The Walrus Audio Julia chorus pedal can get the Peter Hook tone if anyone is interested.