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The Evolution of Bass Guitar Technology and Beyond...

#224
plangentmusic said:
Every great bass sound has already been created. It's not like anyone i sitting around saying "If only...." Well, some do. But I get the feeling they're the type that'll never be satisfied.
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I think this might have been the problem with Entwistle's tone. As new technologies became available, he tried them all, searching for some elusive perfect tone that existed only in his head. In his earlier days, when he fight against all the constraints the equipment of the time imposed, he sounded incredible. Did the Buzzard and all the processors sound better than the Precision through Hiwattts?

All the advanced materials and techniques in the world don't mean you actually sound any better. Isn't the sound pretty much the point?
 
#225
Nec,

He toured with the stuff, and you look at articles where he talks of it, he gets to sounding like a scientist.

Whether or not his decisions and the complexity of everything was real in reaching a tone, or just a disease (Accute GAS; AGAS), seems to be that which will remain a mystery.

I know he bought 5 Danelectros to get the solo on My Generation completed, so all of the STUFF might have been to reach Tone + consistency.

My Dad a choir director and 5 String DBVer hears stuff I still cannot (reason he hates the standard guitar), maybe that was what Entwistle was being chased by or chasing more of.

Never heard him in concert, so I cannot say.

He leaves a legacy.
 
#227
To Entwhistle himself, he might have sounded much better. Not everyone likes the same sounds.

One thing I find bemusing is when someone says a P or a J will sound good in any situation- the "you can't go wrong with a P" thing. The problem is they'll only sound good if you like the sound of them. If you don't, then they won't sound good. To me it's like saying Frank Sinatra will sound good singing on any song.
 
#229
Nostatic,
It was important for me to not write a treatise on dominant and recessive genes, nor an addendum article on the function of mitochondrial DNA.

If I did then we would pull in the audacity and outright ridiculousness of the highminded repackaging of the theory of spontaneous generation sold to us as fact but still known as the THEORY of evolution.

So, thanks for being understanding about that.
 
#230
Bryan R. Tyler said:
... To me it's like saying Frank Sinatra will sound good singing on any song.
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Yeah, I suppose Ian Gillian's voice might have been a little better suited to "Highway Star" than Old Blue Eyes. :D

Tmoney865 said:
Nostatic,
It was important for me to not write a treatise on dominant and recessive genes, nor an addendum article on the function of mitochondrial DNA.

If I did then we would pull in the audacity and outright ridiculousness of the highminded repackaging of the theory of spontaneous generation sold to us as fact but still known as the THEORY of evolution.

So, thanks for being understanding about that.
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I hate it when the audacity and outright ridiculousness of the highminded repackaging of the theory of spontaneous generation is sold to us as fact.

:D
 
#232
Woody!
You funnin me?:confused:

I did not think that you honestly believed that in 1951 Leo threw some wood, metal, plastic, copper wire and a couple magnets in a trash can, stirred and then poured the contents onto the floor and the P Bass fell out, and then in 1960 did the same thing to make the J?:rollno:

Say it aint SO!:D
 
#233
Bryan R. Tyler said:
To Entwhistle himself, he might have sounded much better. Not everyone likes the same sounds.

One thing I find bemusing is when someone says a P or a J will sound good in any situation- the "you can't go wrong with a P" thing. The problem is they'll only sound good if you like the sound of them. If you don't, then they won't sound good. To me it's like saying Frank Sinatra will sound good singing on any song.
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i bring a fender to my unfamiliar gigs because it always works with anything no matter what it is. i use other basses too, but from a professional gig hustling standpoint, you really can't go wrong with a p or a j in any situation...it's true.
 
#234
JimmyM said:
i bring a fender to my unfamiliar gigs because it always works with anything no matter what it is. i use other basses too, but from a professional gig hustling standpoint, you really can't go wrong with a p or a j in any situation...it's true.
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Sure you can, if you go to work with a producer that dislikes the sound of Fender Ps and Js. The caveat is that the chances of you running into this guy are almost nil :D "Works" just means "likes the sound of," and nearly everyone likes the sound of a Fender. That may or may not greatly change in the future- it all depends on what people grow used to hearing and prefer.
 
#235
i just hope that whatever the future trends are, producers and bandleaders don't start demanding ritters ;) alembic had me scared for a while...a few big name guys started playing them so it looked like you might have to have one, but thankfully we averted it and still kept fender as the standard. it's not the cheapest option but at least it's not freakin' $12,000!
 
#236
I'm wondering if all the young nu-metal fans of the late 90s will be the future producers in rock, and the ideal bass sound they'll want from players will either be a clackity Ibanez or a Warwick.
 
#238
Tmoney865 said:
Nostatic,
It was important for me to not write a treatise on dominant and recessive genes, nor an addendum article on the function of mitochondrial DNA.

If I did then we would pull in the audacity and outright ridiculousness of the highminded repackaging of the theory of spontaneous generation sold to us as fact but still known as the THEORY of evolution.

So, thanks for being understanding about that.
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Please stop while you're behind. This psuedo-science jibberish is hurting my head - you should go back to bashing Warrior.
 
#239
bassybill said:
Your assessment is accurate. :D
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The reality is that no one can know everything. To quote Clint, "A man's gotta know his limitations." I try to avoid pontificating (at least too deeply) on topics I don't understand. Since I actually spent a good chunk of my life studying, practicing, and teaching science, it galls me to see someone spewing gobbledegook. I always wonder if they know they are FOS or really think they know what they're talking about. Either way, more's the pity.
 
#240
nostatic said:
The reality is that no one can know everything. To quote Clint, "A man's gotta know his limitations." I try to avoid pontificating (at least too deeply) on topics I don't understand. Since I actually spent a good chunk of my life studying, practicing, and teaching science, it galls me to see someone spewing gobbledegook. I always wonder if they know they are FOS or really think they know what they're talking about. Either way, more's the pity.
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Spot on - I couldn't agree more with everything you say here.
 

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