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The fumbling around method

Ok,
Fumbling is not noodling.

Correct. And noodling is not fumbling.

Noodling gets in the way of fumble theory.

Actually, fumbling gets in the way of noodling. If ya gotta fumble, ya can't noodle.

If you know how to noodle, you can't possibly be a pro-level fumbler.

Correct, as the pro level fumbler is at the farthest most point away from being even a beginning noodler.
 
Not trying to go off topic here, you may see a connection as I do.....here goes.................


Has anyone ever dreamed a song? I mean, you hear it well enough in your mind for it to be actually played, wake up, remember it, work it out, write it down, and then decide it was good later on when you're fully awake?

Tom
 
Not trying to go off topic here, you may see a connection as I do.....here goes.................


Has anyone ever dreamed a song? I mean, you hear it well enough in your mind for it to be actually played, wake up, remember it, work it out, write it down, and then decide it was good later on when you're fully awake?

Tom

Twice in my life. One of them is my favourite song I've written, the other is... ok, I guess. See what you think, this is the good one: https://soundcloud.com/theremovables/the-killing
 
I like to fumble thematically. I'll think "today I'm only going to fumble around with a pentatonic minor" or "I'm going to fumble exclusively in locrian mode with a tonic of C". While simultaneously restrictive in a sense, it also has helped me come up with some of my best lines.

Yes! This is a great way to practice. Noodling in a specific scale in a particular key can save you some fumbling later on
 
If I had to fumble around for 10 minutes every time I thought of a cool riff and wanted to play it, I'd probably kill myself. Nothing better than being able to think of a riff in your head and be able to play it almost instantly. That's what learning some theory will do for you. Don't mean to be Debbie Downer, just stating facts.

I am a fumbler, AND I know theory. I've written several things I got from just noodling at home. Just wanted to play some bass for a bit and started messing around. I'll often come up with a groove or lick I like. Sometimes I'll write it down so I don't forget it, sometimes not. Or maybe I liked it enough that I'll remember it. I guess I don't practice properly, unless I have some new tunes to learn

Oh, and yes, if I hear a lick in my head, say, while driving or walking I know what it is. True that theory helps in big ways. I also learn most of my tunes listening while driving.
 
A great way to experiment and learn, especially when fumbling with others.


I once heard a "general business" band at a function. They were what is often called a "pick up band" in the working world of music. The whole band was fumbling through songs and it sounded like it. A lead sheet with chord changes and a melody line, with musicians having basic skills would have yielded better results.
 
I always noodle when I first put on my bass, but I never think of it as fumbling (which has a semi-negative connotation to me). Noodling helps me limber up (warm up) before I get into serious playing. If there's a drummer present, it's even more fun to noodle around as you can get inside each other's heads and follow one another.
 
Not trying to go off topic here, you may see a connection as I do.....here goes.................


Has anyone ever dreamed a song? I mean, you hear it well enough in your mind for it to be actually played, wake up, remember it, work it out, write it down, and then decide it was good later on when you're fully awake?

Tom

Every day. I think this is crucial to analyze what you create.
 
Not trying to go off topic here, you may see a connection as I do.....here goes.................


Has anyone ever dreamed a song? I mean, you hear it well enough in your mind for it to be actually played, wake up, remember it, work it out, write it down, and then decide it was good later on when you're fully awake?

Tom

yes, ive came up with a couple of riffs that way. never a full song but...
 
I guess the three of us are the only fumbling TB'ers

We should start a club!

Start a club..heck let's write a book.."the fumbling around method for bass guitar".
It'd prolly be easy..as thered be no actual instructions on how to play..just what bass to get to look cool..how to hold it..etc. the rest..well just fumble around til ya get it...thats how i roll.

ymmv
 

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