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The Great Bass Preamp/DI Comparison

Yep!

I was at a bass clinic and had the chance to play the artists bass. It was a fantastic Mike Lull bass running through a really nice sounding rig. When I played it....it sounded JUST LIKE MY BASS. There was no magic in the bass, it was in the fingers.

Reminds me of this video where John 5 plays a Hello Kitty toy guitar:



That's great! Though I have no idea who John 5 is. (Old man voice: "Why is his last name a number??")

I'm not a "tone is all in your fingers" kinda guy. I mean, yes, there IS tone in your fingers, obviously. But different rigs have different tones. That's part of the equation.

There's nothing particularly "special" about how the great players have their instruments set up. No magic. They have it set up to accommodate a sound in their head. And they are set up well/correctly. But other than that, it's lotsa lotsa lotsa practice and self-evaluation.
 
@chadhargis - Thanks for those screenshots! I'll be quite interested to check out the Fullerton in particular. Much appreciation for sharing!

I'm sure I won't be the only one checking out these settings after how favorably the Pod Go seemed to compare to the other preamps in the audio samples you posted earlier in the thread!

Cheers!

5sg.
 
Got the HXS (main board) and SLO (small board). Needless to say, HXS is wayyy more versatile. Some great tones to be had, with amp/cab sims, comps, drives, effects, eq/hpf/lpf, the works (and some work better than others). You can have fun getting lost in all the options (and TB threads). But what's fun at home is less fun adjusting live. Learning curve isn't terrible, but not a 10-minute thing either. If you can get used to switching between presets or snapshots, and confident you have "your tones" set, you're golden. But if you need to make frequent minor adjustments live, you might feel flustered (finding options, changing wrong things, forgetting to save, etc).

SLO is almost the opposite – somewhat a one-trick pony, but a great trick. Does a nice grind, a little too much too soon perhaps but the 12AX7 can be switched for an AT or AU with more clean range if preferred. Also hit-or-miss with the simple tonestack eq - you might love the tone most of the time, but other times struggle with lack of mid control. Does have a nice bright switch if you need to cut through quickly, and cab sims are a bonus. Also it's a better DI with XLR out, lacking on the HXS.

TL/DR: HXS way more adjustable, much harder to adjust quickly. SLO far easier to adjust, but not much there besides a good warm tone. If I had to pick only one, the HXS hands down, but I don't need to change much on-the-fly. If you can, try both – either are an easy/fast sell (in US at least).

Is it possible on the Pod Go or on the Helix Stomp make quick EQ adjustments on the go with the knobs under the screen (on the stage, during the soundcheck I think it's necessary make quick adjust at least on the general EQ)
 
Is it possible on the Pod Go or on the Helix Stomp make quick EQ adjustments on the go with the knobs under the screen (on the stage, during the soundcheck I think it's necessary make quick adjust at least on the general EQ)

It's actually super easy to make adjustments for all parameters on the Stomp once you get used to how it works (only 3 buttons, but the page buttons will scroll between parameters). Probably similarly easy on the Pod Go.

5sg.
 
Is it possible on the Pod Go or on the Helix Stomp make quick EQ adjustments on the go with the knobs under the screen (on the stage, during the soundcheck I think it's necessary make quick adjust at least on the general EQ)

Yep. The Pod Go has a fairly large screen. You can pull up the element you want to adjust and the knobs under the screen will adjust the parameters. That said, that's pretty "old school". You can set up 4 snapshots per patch. These snapshot will save your on the fly adjustments and allow you to recall them with the click of a footswitch.
 
It's actually super easy to make adjustments for all parameters on the Stomp once you get used to how it works (only 3 buttons, but the page buttons will scroll between parameters). Probably similarly easy on the Pod Go.

5sg.

Yeah, for fumble-fingers like me, preferable to have presets and snapshots at-the-ready than try digital knob-turning and menu-diving between songs etc. For others more adept, it's super easy, barely an inconvenience....
 
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Yeah, for fumble-fingers like me, preferable to have presets and snapshots at-the-ready than try digital knob-turning and menu-diving between songs etc. For others more adept, it's super easy, barely an inconvenience....

Yep...unless your set has over 200 songs in it...you could feasibly have a completely different "rig" for each song in your set.
 
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Quick question that will likely result in a long explanation: will an active DI cut down on string noise and noise floor compared to a passive DI that requires more gain at the sound board?
A Low Pass Filter or combo LPF/HPF does a great job of cutting out string noise and clank. And the Broughton HPF/LPF has a significant gain boost on tap as well, so you can raise your signal going to the board that way. His BBA achieves a similar (though non-adjustable filter-wise) effect. The Broughton HPF/LPF would be my recommendation. I had no idea what a difference a HPF could make as well for tightening up low end. It's a beautiful thing.
 
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A Low Pass Filter or combo LPF/HPF does a great job of cutting out string noise and clank. And the Broughton HPF/LPF has a significant gain boost on tap as well, so you can raise your signal going to the board that way. His BBA achieves a similar (though non-adjustable filter-wise) effect. The Broughton HPF/LPF would be my recommendation. I had no idea what a difference a HPF could make as well for tightening up low end. It's a beautiful thing.

I will look into that pedal! Originally I was hoping to get away with just an active DI, but I think that I might need to invest in an additional utility pedal. Currently I have FOH applying LPF and HPF and then sending me my monitor mix post filters but pre EQ.
 
It's actually super easy to make adjustments for all parameters on the Stomp once you get used to how it works (only 3 buttons, but the page buttons will scroll between parameters). Probably similarly easy on the Pod Go.

5sg.
This is exactly what I'm after. I'm more in the set-&-forget camp, so having tactile knobs when it's not working has always been my go-to. I'll look deeper into the stomp, cheers.
 
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This is exactly what I'm after. I'm more in the set-&-forget camp, so having tactile knobs when it's not working has always been my go-to. I'll look deeper into the stomp, cheers.

If you are a "set and forget" guy, then you will LOVE the digital stuff. When you save your patch, sock your pedal away in a gig bag, transport it to the gig, and plug it up....no amount of bumping of the knobs and controls will have changed anything. Once you power it on, it will load the patch EXACTLY as you saved it. If you twiddle around with it and want to go back to where you started....provided you haven't saved it....you can just reload it. You can buy TWO HX or Pod Go units for what one of some of the boutique tube options sell for. That means you can clone your config from one to the other and have one for gigs and one for practice. You can load the config from one to another if something changes. Take along the practice unit as a backup if you like....or do like my guitar player and I do. If his Pod Go dies, I have all his patches saved in mine and I can go to a backup rig as I need far less patches and effects.
 
If you are a "set and forget" guy, then you will LOVE the digital stuff. When you save your patch, sock your pedal away in a gig bag, transport it to the gig, and plug it up....no amount of bumping of the knobs and controls will have changed anything. Once you power it on, it will load the patch EXACTLY as you saved it. If you twiddle around with it and want to go back to where you started....provided you haven't saved it....you can just reload it. You can buy TWO HX or Pod Go units for what one of some of the boutique tube options sell for. That means you can clone your config from one to the other and have one for gigs and one for practice. You can load the config from one to another if something changes. Take along the practice unit as a backup if you like....or do like my guitar player and I do. If his Pod Go dies, I have all his patches saved in mine and I can go to a backup rig as I need far less patches and effects.
Great post. Thank you.
I've used my strymon mobius more or less like you say. Set it up and forget how to dive through the menu's .... multiple times. Not proud, but at the same time, if it works I don't need to.
I've been looking into HX-stomp, looks like a pretty cool little box
 
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Great post. Thank you.
I've used my strymon mobius more or less like you say. Set it up and forget how to dive through the menu's .... multiple times. Not proud, but at the same time, if it works I don't need to.
I've been looking into HX-stomp, looks like a pretty cool little box

I love my Stomp. I don't even use a tiny percentage of its capabilities but it's still worth it, money-wise. Set and forget. No knobs get bumped. Small footprint. Tons of tone shaping options. What's not to like?
 
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The guitar player at church just got an XL so he can leave it at church and use his "real" pedalboard for his other stuff. He's finding some stuff that he thinks will work. He likes the idea of leaving something at church. I do, too, but I haven't found it yet.

I like the idea of presets, not worrying about knobs getting moved, all that stuff. The digital stuff I've tried so far has not impressed me. I just returned a Darkglass Infinity. I know MANY bass players swear by their Stomp. After my Infinity experience, I'm a little hesitant to pull the trigger again.

My Empress/REDDI combo is tough to beat. I don't use effects much so the Stomp seems like overkill.
 
I am currently trying to decide whether to buy an Origin Bass Rig SVT or the Jad Freer Capo. Has anyone here tried both devices and can give me some advice? I will probably use them together with a tube DI afterwards, which also adds some flavor. Thanks in advance!
 
I just returned a Darkglass Infinity.

Speaking from much personal experience on TRYING to like Darkglass stuff, it might not be entirely fair to base all digital gear on an experience with the Infinity. It may not be the "digitalness" of the Infinity that you don't like... It may be the baked in Darkglass distinct flavor that all DG stuff has, IMO (which is probably drastically different from the REDDI you're used to).

I absolutely love the way Darkglass gear sounds in demos and in some of the modern metal stuff, and Amos Heller in particular does a great job of showing "non-metal" uses for it. But try as I might, I just can't seem to vibe with it in my personal rig. And I've tried all the various flavors: B3K, B7K, Vintage Ultra, Alpha Omega Ultra, Super Symmetry, Harmonic Booster, Tone Capsule... I do still have the last three, but the Tone Capsule in my newest bass will most likely be replaced soon, just trying to give it a proper go before I make a final decision.

So it might be worth checking out one of the other multi units as a "leave at church" option.

Just putting that out there for discussion. Personal opinion of course! :)

5sg.
 
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For sure. I had the church get me an HX Stomp. The guitar player got an HXStomp XL and it's working out fine. I hope to have mine set up week after next. I'm off next week.

I have an HXS and I almost want to dislike it, I think to justify keeping my dozen or so analog pedals. But every time I mess with it I'm undeniably impressed with the overall tone and versatility - with just a few exceptions (can't jibe with the comps as much as my Empress or Apex, no XLR DI out, etc). I think I need to keep everything, in true TB style.