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The larger margin on the 4th string side?

Some bassists, including Jaco Pastorius, have larger margin on the 4th string side than on the 1st string side (I mean the space on the neck between the string and the edge of fretboard).
I'd like to know why, what are the benefits of that?

Thank you in advance.
 
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If you mean this -
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It's not on purpose. The neck of the bass has shifted in the pocket. Loosen the neck screws a quarter turn and pull the headstock toward the E string side until the strings line up evenly, then retighten the neck screws.
 
If you mean this -
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It's not on purpose. The neck of the bass has shifted in the pocket. Loosen the neck screws a quarter turn and pull the headstock toward the E string side until the strings line up evenly, then retighten the neck screws.
Really?
I have never experienced that with my bass guitars or seen ones with the larger margin on the 1st string side. (I know some guitar players intentionally have the larger margin on the 1st string side to prevent the string from slipping off the neck.)
Anyway thank you for the post, I appreciate.
 
Sorry but I'm not good at speaking English... So let me supplement it just in case.
What I meant on the #4 is that I think if it can shift to the bass side, it can also shift to the treble side. However, I have only seen the case where the margin on the bass side is wider. (Of course, many symmetrical bass guitars in the world are not included here.)
 
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some guitar players intentionally have the larger margin on the 1st string side to prevent the string from slipping off the neck
I think if it can shift to the bass side, it can also shift to the treble side. However, I have only seen the case where the margin on the bass side is wider.
i think a player's technique/style might account for some preference, e.g., i'm most likely to be the same as the guitar player example that you referenced. even though my string courses (as a group) look as though they're 'centered' on the fingerboard, that "1st string" sets the standard, and the D, A, and E strings follow, so to speak.
 
Really?
I have never experienced that with my bass guitars or seen ones with the larger margin on the 1st string side. (I know some guitar players intentionally have the larger margin on the 1st string side to prevent the string from slipping off the neck.)
Anyway thank you for the post, I appreciate.
I see them both ways:

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So do you really believe that Jaco's set up was merely by an error? And the same error kept happening to his bass guitars throughout his career?
Even if you are right, I still wonder why his tech never fixed it.
Lots of people don't "fix" it. But the OCD ones do. Most often they complain that the strings don't line up over the pole pieces of their pickups and it bothers them. Neither the alignment of the strings over the fretboard nor over the pickup poles is critical unless it bothers you or affects playability for you.

I'm not convinced that Jaco had the offset you mention:

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Lots of people don't "fix" it. But the OCD ones do. Most often they complain that the strings don't line up over the pole pieces of their pickups and it bothers them. Neither the alignment of the strings over the fretboard nor over the pickup poles is critical unless it bothers you or affects playability for you.

I'm not convinced that Jaco had the offset you mention:

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Thank you for your opinion. I appreciate.
 
So do you really believe that Jaco's set up was merely by an error? And the same error kept happening to his bass guitars throughout his career?
Even if you are right, I still wonder why his tech never fixed it.
.. I think his style of playing probably slowly moved the basses like this... How he held the neck and manipulated the bass.
I am not sure he had guitar techs back then..
 
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