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The Praise and Worship Band Bassists Club

I do believe if my praise band were to implement click tracks with voice prompts like that I would respectfully resign from the role in the band.

I get it that the goal is to have everyone playing together. However I personally find the click track to be so distracting that I no longer feel like I’m making music with other musicians.

Practice with a metronome to help you develop good time is one thing - but for live performance- I want to listen & interact with my musical companions.

Earlier in the year I played with my former church’s band briefly in preparation for a July 4th parade event.
They had started dabbling with a click track & I found it to be a non-starter for me.
We used to use a click only (no band direction) for our IEM feed. I keep the click set low so that I can hear it for starting in tempo and as a reference for quieter passages without drums. When the whole band w/drums kicked in, the click would be nearly inaudible so I could take my cues from the other players.

A good prep for playing with a click is practicing to a metronome. work on making your playing groove to a steady beat. practice playing ahead, behind and right on top of the click.

With the new WL, there is no click. Sometimes the one is different for each player in the quieter sections when we don't have a drummer. Hopefully the problem lessens as we get used to working with each other.
 
We used to use a click only (no band direction) for our IEM feed. I keep the click set low so that I can hear it for starting in tempo and as a reference for quieter passages without drums. When the whole band w/drums kicked in, the click would be nearly inaudible so I could take my cues from the other players.

A good prep for playing with a click is practicing to a metronome. work on making your playing groove to a steady beat. practice playing ahead, behind and right on top of the click.

With the new WL, there is no click. Sometimes the one is different for each player in the quieter sections when we don't have a drummer. Hopefully the problem lessens as we get used to working with each other.

I typically have my click turned almost all the way down unless the drummer I am playing with is inexperienced or there is a particularly difficult part to count.

One exception was Christmas Eve when I was playing rapid fingerstyle guitar and I was supposed to have notes on each click. The drums were very quiet in that song. I turned the click up for that.
 
Also, do those well drilling operations offer 0% financing for 48 months?

Seriously though, just remember that when you are paying over $1,500 for an instrument, you’re contributing to the employment of someone in the USA, or a friendly European country.

When you spend over $650, you’re contributing to the employment of someone in Indonesia.

When you spend less than that, you are contributing to the employment of someone in China.

The figures are just rough examples, but my point is this: the cost of a good to you is someone else’s income.

Think about what you, or others you know, do for a living. Odds are, you are an expense that someone would rather not pay, or perhaps you are the cheaper alternative that is going to drive down someone else’s wages or ability to stay employed.

We have a lot of focus on wealth inequality, when the fact of the matter is that it’s not the inequality that is the matter, but the fact that there are plenty of people that don’t even have the first layer of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs sorted out.

Helping these people is complicated. We can send them clothing to help with that, but in doing so, we destroy the livelihood of everyone who was engaging in producing clothing. We can send them food, but that certainly has an impact on farmers. We can topple their corrupt regimes, and then later abandon them.

Does the intention matter or the consequence? Is there a point where inserting ourselves becomes counter productive?

No good answers at the end of the day, but I tell you, even trying to help people is harder than it seems.
My thought on this is that no matter where people live, everybody's gotta eat. I try to buy my cheap instruments/parts through US vendors, so they get at least a piece of the pie.
 
My wife and I are in competition to see who can rack up the most medical bills in a year.

Frankly, I would rather play scrabble.
Last year I thought I would win with my dental work. My wife scored a come from behind victory due to weeks-long hospitalization with heart problems. Remember her in your prayers if you would, please.
 
Can someone explain to me why, in the US, the phase "Praise and Worship" is used instead of the more accurate "Religious" when it comes to Christian church music?
TIA.
Setting aside pedantic or spiritual definitions of the word “Religious”… I think that “Religious” could apply but in classification terms is too broad. P&W is a pretty well defined genre - modern (ie post 1950s), rock based popular music using electric or amplified acoustic instruments and geared somewhat towards congregational singing (ie a congregation praising and worshipping).

However, consider “Gospel music” - a related genre, also used in church to support praising and worshipping by the congregation. But a specifically different and distinct genre from P&W. However, it could also fall under Religious.

Then take a Bach or Haydn cantata, a Mozart or Beethoven Mass - this also fits within “Religious” but is very distinct from P&W. Then how about… An audio recording of an actor reading from the Psalms, a poet reading Christian, Hindu or Buddhist poetry, a recording of Sufi Muslim chants and calls to prayer, a contemporary Christian pop song designed purely as a performance piece and not aimed at use in congregational worship, spirituals and slave songs, Xhosa and Zulu protest songs with religious derived lyrics (used to sing these in an a capella group back in university)… the list goes on. All of these can be happily classified as “Religious”. However, on that basis, the word’s utility as a specific classification is pretty suspect. So, “Praise & Worship” or “Contemporary Christian Worship” (CCW) it is then…
 
One other item of distinction: I totally feel comfortable on bass for P&W, but would be swapping for a guitar to play rhythm guitar on a gospel song.

Sometimes it’s good to know when you need to tap out due to your skill level, and gospel would be one of those.

Probably need to lean into the style, even though we don’t play it at my church, nor does it appear to be the case at any churches within 20 miles of me. Great music, and would definitely help me progress as a musician.
 
Fun songs this weekend!

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26003075[/URL], member: 255972"]Is there anything a person can use to protect their pedalboard from a sound man who wonders “What does this phantom switch do?” I think that’s what happened to my nice Radial Bassbone.

I use a Triton Audio Phantom Blocker on the XLR signal to FOH. Does the trick.

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I use a Triton Audio Phantom Blocker on the XLR signal to FOH. Does the trick.

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Hi Dave, that connector blocks the Phantom Power incoming from FOH?

I'm having a issue at church because my Tone Hammer sends it's signal to FOH via the XLR DI, but feeds it's 18v from the pedalboard power source, phantom power is on due to some condenser mics requiring it, but increases the hiss on the bass channel. Phantom Power is my main suspect...
 
To me Praise and Worship are actually two separate genres that are played during a Church service, and usually in that order. For a broader definition of Christian music, I think CCM fills that bill. As has already been observed, "religion", hence, religious music, could encompass Buddhist Chants, Indian War Cries, "church" music et. al. Hymns, and many of the Classics (Handel, Bach, Beethoven etc.) were written for use in Christian Churches. Gospel, to me, generally points to the stuff of the 50's to early 70's. Negro Spirituals is another genre that I can think of. Yes, they are all religious in their intent, but, unless we qualify it as Christian, it could mean anything.
 
I’ve been sick for a couple of days, nothing too serious. I got tested for covid yesterday. Haven’t heard anything back from that. Last night was bad. Only one symptom. I couldn’t stop coughing, all night.

I took medicine. I ate cough drops by the handful. Nothing worked. Then I remembered grandpas cough medicine, half a shot of whisky. It worked. Immediately. Grandpa is smarter than I gave him credit for.
 
Hey, Mom! I'm really coughing badly - can I have another shot...I mean more cough syrup?

FWIW, I drink beer regularly...2 in the last 2 years!

Dan
Never developed a taste for beer. My mom and dad drank it a lot (especially dad). I never liked it. But I, like my siblings, have a problem of craving alcohol and stuff a bit too much, so I stay away.