Off to The Rocking Worship Roadshow. Super excited as this is a great experience for my little family. Playing Sunday too so all is well.
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The Praise and Worship Band Bassists Club
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It's an interesting observation. I was musing on this while out running this morning (I need something to take my mind off what I'm actually doing!). Some churches have a culture of generosity. Some have a few generous people. And some that may seem stingy may already have their resources committed elsewhere.
The analogy that came to my mind was of limited companies. Some pay dividends out each year, some don't. Depending on the viewpoint of the investor this could be seen as positive or negative. The company that pays out a dividend? Great, I get cash. But maybe they're paying out because they've got no other strategy. The company that doesn't pay the dividend gives nothing to the investor now. But maybe that's because they have a big growth strategy that requires investment and will increase the value of the company.
As an investor, which is better? Well, it's neutral really and depends on what you want. Both could lead to your wealth increasing, just via different methods. Likewise, trying to apply this analogy back to churches, they could be flowing money outwards, investing inwards, or a mixture of the two. Apllying wisdom, responsibility and good stewardship (as both Christians and comapny directors should have), the result is growth and expansion in different ways.
Anyway, that was nothing to do with music, just my morning musings!
A good rehearsal last night although it took a few attempts for everyone to get on the click (we're just using it in rehearsal still). We had to have it really cranked up, to the extent that it was actually audible in the hall through any earbuds that were left dangling.
Has anyone else had an issue with this? At the moment the only thing I can suggest is that everyone puts both their earbuds in (as they should anyway, but it's a real issue with those who want to hear more ambient sound, typcally singers).
Has anyone else had an issue with this? At the moment the only thing I can suggest is that everyone puts both their earbuds in (as they should anyway, but it's a real issue with those who want to hear more ambient sound, typcally singers).
Studies have frequently noted that poor people give a higher percentage of their income to charities than rich people. Perhaps it is true of many churches, as well. Jesus' comment about the difficulty for rich people to enter the kingdom of heaven was counter-cultural then as well as now. If we are truly following him, we'll need to be aware of this tendency, and actively resisting the normal flow of human nature. By the standards of the 1st Century, every one of us is unbelievably wealthy.
Marcus
Marcus
Truth. The more you 'have' (because it's not really ours anyway), the harder it is to part with it.
Hello everyone. I am just returning to this group after having been out for nearly 3 years. went to rehearsal at my new church last night and I get to play on Sunday. I have missed it.
Wow, that's quite a break - welcome back! Were you without a 'gig' all that time?
Yes it was a long break. I had a regular band for a little while, but that fell apart. Then I had a pretty major life upheaval to deal and I was not playing much during that time.
Glad to be getting back into playing. I am joining a band that just started a little less than a year ago. They already have a bass player, but welcomed me anyways so we can both have a week off from time to time.
That's great stuff. And it's good to have a week off now and again - I find it keeps me hungry to play again! I'm on electric guitar this week, a scheduled week off next week and then bass the week after. And I can't wait to play bass again!
Any Jule Monique owners here? I'm currently getting killer tone at church-but I plan on ordering one in February( i know there's a thread for Monique) but I was wondering how the Monique is working in a church setting for any lucky owners 
I would think it would not be a problem to have both earbuds in. If they want more ambient sound, see if you can hang a room mic (probably a condenser) or two and mix that into their band mix. Is this the standard band+me in-ear system or something more customizable like Aviom?
I think the hardest part with things like metronomes or click tracks or in-ear mixes or whatever is that people have to really buy in. And listen. It's amazing to me how infrequently people actually listen when playing or singing music. Patience is also required to customize things to where you want them. All of that boils down to needing a desire to actually make it work. If people aren't all in, there are a number of things that they can turn into roadblocks.
I don't think it's a good idea to have one ear bud out...you need to turn the volume much higher to hear things, and risk damaging your ears.
I agree that the ideal for protecting your hearing is both ears in - that's what I always do. We don't currently have an ambient mic but that's something I'll be suggesting. (Our setup is 8 individual monitor mixes but controlled from the desk, so we request and change settings during soundcheck).
I also agree about attention and buy-in. The next few weeks are going to be interesting as we see what the appetite really is before using a click in the services. Whenever we go off tempo in rehearsal I use it as an opportunity to point out how our sense of timing isn't perfect on its own.
I also agree about attention and buy-in. The next few weeks are going to be interesting as we see what the appetite really is before using a click in the services. Whenever we go off tempo in rehearsal I use it as an opportunity to point out how our sense of timing isn't perfect on its own.
I disagree. I have heard from many people that one in one out is bad.
I think if you take the time to get a good mix there's no reason to need one out to hear everything you need.
That's what I mean. in some cases there isn't time or equipment or knowledge on the board to get the mix right and you have to improvise. As a safeguard when I do one on one off I set the volume with both in and then don't mess with it.
Is it just a couple of people with weak timing who have their buds cranked, or is everyone doing it?
This is a recipe for hearing loss. There's no point using IEM's to improve your teams timing, if it comes at the expense of physical injury.
It sounds like people are not getting what they need to hear in their monitor feeds.
An ambient mic will help somewhat, but IME after providing a good, user-adjustable mix (and training people what to listen for) the next most critical factor is the choice of ear buds.
This is intensely personal. I haven't noticed any correlation between age, gender or experience. It just is what it is...
Some people seem able to manage with nothing more than a pair of Apple buds, but others simply can't get the job done without at least a mid-priced 2-way IEM or better.
Our church recently cut a deal so that some the newer people on the team could get their choice of Shure buds at a substantial discount, to help them get over that hurdle.
