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The Real Reason Why Bands Play the Same Old Tired Covers

I couldn't agree more. It makes me think of "Roundabout" by Yes. Their most well known tune. You can dance to it. But few bands attempt it because they lack the skill or will to learn it. I've only ever seen 2 bands play it. One was a cover band back in the 70s. The other was Yes. :)

Not sure when you are going. You comment on bands not just doing the hits and easy songs, the you bring up Roundabout - one of their two songs to get a lot of radio play, and about their easiest to play.
 
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We tried to update the song list just to keep it fresh for ourselves really but people kept coming up and asking for all those old covers, I suppose it depends on your age, you associate songs with a period of your life that felt good.

I do agree that if you're going to play the songs, whatever they are, make the effort to learn them properly. One of my pet hates is trying to just wing it when you've had ample time to prepare.
 
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Nothing to do with lazy musicians - at least not the people I play with. I'd say it's a lazy crowd. Not willing to listen to something new, maybe different, or maybe on the radio within the couple months. We play Proud Mary, 24K Magic, Kickstart My Heart, Shut Up and Dance, Goodbye Earl, etc. If you can't find something we play to dance to or go to the bathroom to, you aren't trying hard enough.

I dislike this analogy though - because it implies that Joe and Jane Everyday People should be expected to take the same level of interest in music that we do. The fact is that most people don't. And that's ok. I don't care about most of what trips their trigger either - in all likelihood it's something I'm not interested in. Underwater basket weaving? Horses? The stock market? Paranormal phenomenon? Whatever - it's not my muse. So to me, that seems like an equitable thing. It's not a lazy crowd. It's a crowd that's going to have a far easier time connecting with songs they know and love without having to be overly invested in something that is not their passion.
 
In the mid 80's our band played covers from the 50's to the 80's as that's what our audience wanted to hear. Over time we, the band members, started internally reacting to some requests as "not that again"; to the point of telling the requestor "we don't do that one, we'll learn it for next time." After a point doing the same songs over and over is boring to band members.

In my current band we have songs we want to play and others we don't. Of course we're not 100% with each other on which songs fit where in the do/don't do discussion. What we did agree on is we need to be conscious of the audience and play what keeps them in the venue, what keeps the ladies on the dance floor. This is why a band is a value to the entity that hired us, so that bar/club/venue makes more money than if we weren't there.

It is valuable from time to time and visit clubs to watch other bands and the audience reaction to songs. I learned a lot from this a month ago. The ladies at this establishment got up and danced to the most repeated covers. The biggest hit with them? Twist and Shout! But it was how the band handled it. The lead singer called out and invited any lady in the audience that wanted to come up on stage for a karaoke song with the band. It took a minute but finally one was goaded on by her table mates. The crowd loved it! It was fun for all. Was she polished and on key like a band member? No! But this loosened up the crowd during the second set and the dance floor continued to be active. Success for the bar owner who is paying the band.

All I'm saying is it's a good idea to be flexible with songs in your set list to reach and keep a wider audience. Or...you may choose to specialize, and that's fine too, if you are attracting and keeping your audience entertained.
 
Last October I went to two gigs the same weekend. Saturday night , two different bands played "Highway to hell". Saturday the band played that song again.

Two weeks later I played in a gig with one of my bands. The opening band played "Highway to hell"

Sometimes you must play what people want to hear/sing.

Ive seen terrible cover bands getting hughe impact just because they play easy sing slong songs and people goes crazy and keeps on drinking...Thats what some bar owners pay for.
 
The real reason why bands play the same old tired covers? Lazy musicians. Over the years, I have been surprised at how many musicians cannot put in the time to learn a tune. It could be that they don't have time, don't have the ability, don't want to learn one for whatever reason, think they can wing it, etc. But, in the end, they don't learn the tune, so we have to punt and do a tired-old cover instead because everyone already knows it.

There's lots of older, experienced musicians who still play the same stuff that they played decades ago and think that Bon Jovi is modern rock. There's guys who think they can wing it, and it can work until you get the bridge that follows a different chord progression. There's guys who think a song is just 3 chords, so they don't bother to learn the harmonies, dynamic changes, etc. because they think it's easy. Yes, it's easy, but you can still suck at it. There's players who don't even touch their instrument outside of a practice or gig. And I can go on and on about the various issues, but it still comes down to effort, and there's lots of musicians who won't put in the effort.

Luckily, in my current band through some lineup changes, we have folks who will actually learn a tune. What I've learned is that there's lots of covers that aren't being played that go over well. It's just that you need to spend a little time listening to the tune and learning it. And it's usually not a tune you learned in the garage 20 years ago. No-one specifically requests Brown Eyed Girl, Mustang Sally, Sweet Home Alabama, and lots of other tired covers from my band. Although we could do those tunes, none of them go over as well as the songs that lots of cover bands don't do that we do such as 'Impression That I Get' by the Bosstones or Reel Big Fish's version of 'Take On Me'.

And outside of my band, I've seen several examples too. Although 'American Girl' and 'Free Falling' by Tom Petty go over well, so does 'Running Down a Dream', 'Don't Do Me Like That', and 'The Waiting'. The way bands cover Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Skynyrd, and other iconic Classic Rock Bands, you'd think they only had 2-3 hit songs. But they actually had a bunch of them, but too many bands gravitate towards the 1-2 easiest songs they do. And even though Steely Dan had a bunch of radio hits, very few bands play their material because it takes some effort to learn. Actually, there's lots of hit songs that would go over well that are left on the table because people won't bother learning it.

Musicians put a lot of blame on the audiences, and sure they are part of the equation, but I don't buy it that it's the majority of the problem. The tired covers are like McDonalds, people eat there because it's convenient, cheap, and they know what to expect. But, it's rarely their favorite place to eat. I've heard plenty of musicians complain about apathetic audiences, but if you're being lazy and apathetic, they will pick up on that. Expecting audiences to be passionate about your apathy is pretty narcissistic and unrealistic, IMO. Although I've seen some non-tired covers clear a floor, I've seen so many of them work out well that I feel they are worthwhile doing. A song can be a hit, recognizable, and easy to dance to without being one that every band does.

In addition to lazy musicians, lazy and unimaginative promoters and booking agents contribute to the phenomena I call "same band, different name". Booking agents especially tend to be more conservative in their dealings and are loathe to take risks. For example, even though Modern Country has become mainstream and audiences are craving it, most booking agents will book another 80s-90s Rock cover band over a solid Country act.

Anyway, that's my rant.
I would in part agree. I have played with bands that fit this description perfectly. Gigs turn into a jam session of the same old over played songs of yesteryear, often done poorly. Then, I have played with bands that did the same old songs of yesteryear done very well and were very well received. Mustang Sally, Give Me Three Steps, etc. all became hits because they are loved by many people across many decades. I told one band, that people just wanted to go out, have drinks with friends, sing along to songs they know, dance a little, and forget how miserable their life really is for a while.
 
Extreme viewpoints, maybe...

Musicians: "I want us to play those covers accurately and in tune."

Venue owners: "I want the band to not stink, so people will dance and buy lots of drinks. Actually, I don't really care about the first part, as long as I get the second."

Patrons: "I want to hear a great sounding band play songs I like."

The above almost fit. Most times you gotta bang the squares pegs into round holes.
 
....... bands that did the same old songs of yesteryear done very well and were very well received. Mustang Sally, Give Me Three Steps, etc. all became hits because they are loved by many people across many decades. I told one band, that people just wanted to go out, have drinks with friends, sing along to songs they know, dance a little, and forget how miserable their life really is for a while.

^this^

there's one very simple reason we still play some of the same old tired covers

1) people like them
 
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This band, very popular in the city it's in, does it. I found it on Youtube. the bassist is barely moving his hands, yet it sounds like the song. I think doing the harmonies well and of course the signature keyboards is more important than the bass part


I have a brother that says this band is awesome, a bunch of very talented folks. He saw them over in the Tampa area, I need to get over that way soon and check them out.
 
Because they don't grasp that when they are playing in public they are there to entertain the audience, not themselves.

Exactly, but typical of the judgmental attitude that's so prevalent on here.

If you refuse to play "Brown Eyed Girl" when a trove of attractive looking ladies from a bachelorette party ask for it because it's beneath you, than I'm glad we will never be in the same band. :thumbsup:
 

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