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Hey all, I have a 1997 Ibanez Soundgear 1200 and I'm looking to upgrade the electronics and pickups.

My band is like an alternative, grunge, hard rock band but we get pretty jazzy and dynamic as well.

I was thinking about going EMG for pickups and preamp but was also considering Wilde + Audere preamp.

Anybody have experience with upgrade their Soundgear preamp and pickups that can share their experience?

I love the bass, but I really think the tone can improve. I've had the bass for a year now and have tried different strings / pickup height.


1997 Ibanez SR1200 Neck Through Made In Korea:
  • Body: Bird's eye maple top, Mahogany back
  • Neck: 5-piece wenge/maple neck through, 24-fret rosewood fretboard with oval MOP inlays.
  • Pickups: Ibanez AFR-P and IBZ-AFR-J.
  • Preamp: Vari-Mid 3 band active Eq controls

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I've got a '96 sr1200, I tried to keep the stock electronics & pickups, but the wiring was bad and a couple of the circuit boards had damage from attempted repairs by POs, and the AFR-J didn't pick up sound from the A-string any more.

I replaced the pickup with a new/nos? from Ibanez part, and the electronics with an EMG BQC System, to keep the same functionality as stock (I added EMG plug & play connectors to the pickups & output jack)

It was a tight fit, but worked out really great, and sounds pretty awesome with the stock pickups, imo :thumbsup:


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I've got a '96 sr1200, I tried to keep the stock electronics & pickups, but the wiring was bad and a couple of the circuit boards had damage from attempted repairs by POs, and the AFR-J didn't pick up sound from the A-string any more.

I replaced the pickup with a new/nos? from Ibanez part, and the electronics with an EMG BQC System, to keep the same functionality as stock (I added EMG plug & play connectors to the pickups & output jack)

It was a tight fit, but worked out really great, and sounds pretty awesome with the stock pickups, imo :thumbsup:


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So you're recommending the EMG preamp? Looks like it just fits in there.
 
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Ok, and those are passive pickups, right? Whereas the PJAX are active?
Yes that is true.

I hear people saying the PJAX are too bright? Something about the Alnico?
Yeah they are a bit brighter than the Geezers. Generally whenever I had a J Bridge Pickups, I never felt like I lacked brightness (especially not with a preamp, where you can boost the highs). I find the J Pickup in the Geezer more balanced with the P one, so I prefer that.
 
In that case, I would get the Geezler Butler EMG PJ set, and then a more modern preamp like Aguilar or Darkglass.

You can also use an EMG preamp, but I always find them to be kinda boring

I saw a Lobster review on YT where he swapped out stock PJ pickups & pre with this exact setup. Not sure which contributed more (leaning towards the DG preamp, since the Geezers are supposed to be a more vintage leaning pickup), but this combo brought quite a bit of top end. Too much for my tastes, YMMV.

This is why personally, I tend to shy away from preamps that are too aggressively voiced. If I want a major voice change for my instrument, I tend to change pickups first. But everyone's approach is different. Just saying this particular combo seemed a bit harsh sounding.

Forgive the non-Ibanez content:

 
I recently bought a mint condition SR405EQM and absolutely love it! The neck profile, close string spacing and weight are straight up perfect!

Ordered some Bart 2j PUs and a Bart hr5.2ap harness which should arrive and be installed in the next month. Going to run each PU with a 3way switch as series/parallel/single coil.

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can't wait it will be a beast!
No offense, but did you physically measure the stock pickups to make sure the Barts you ordered are going to fit? That would be a bummer.
 
I saw a Lobster review on YT where he swapped out stock PJ pickups & pre with this exact setup. Not sure which contributed more (leaning towards the DG preamp, since the Geezers are supposed to be a more vintage leaning pickup), but this combo brought quite a bit of top end. Too much for my tastes, YMMV.

This is why personally, I tend to shy away from preamps that are too aggressively voiced. If I want a major voice change for my instrument, I tend to change pickups first. But everyone's approach is different. Just saying this particular combo seemed a bit harsh sounding.

Forgive the non-Ibanez content:


Agree the sound is too harsh here. However I don't really understand the upgrade here. I have never played a single Jackson that I didn't find to bright.
 
Agree the sound is too harsh here. However I don't really understand the upgrade here. I have never played a single Jackson that I didn't find to bright.

I don't know why it ended up so bright, but sometimes two otherwise well respective brands just don't go together as well as they should "in theory".

Not even saying the DG/Geezer combo will sound like this in every instrument, but I'm just a bit surprised it added that much top end. I think just the Geezers for starters would have been the safer move in this instance.
 
So you're recommending the EMG preamp? Looks like it just fits in there.

It is a snug fit, for sure.

I really like the EMG pre-amp, I also have the BTS in an old Ibanez 5-string (with EMG rip tide pickups).

They're plenty versatile for my needs, and I've no complaints with them, but I mostly stay in my lane with hard rock/"vintage-y" metal, so i can't say 100% it'll give you what you're looking for.
 
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I don't know why it ended up so bright, but sometimes two otherwise well respective brands just don't go together as well as they should "in theory".

Not even saying the DG/Geezer combo will sound like this in every instrument, but I'm just a bit surprised it added that much top end. I think just the Geezers for starters would have been the safer move in this instance.
I would never upgrade everything at once. Upgrade the pickups then wait for a few months to stop the honeymoon period and then change it.