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The Star Treks

Of the Star Trek Series

  • Every Series ROCKS!

    Votes: 27 8.2%

  • Every Series has good and bad episodes

    Votes: 163 49.4%

  • Every Series has good and bad episodes except Enterprise, which sucks

    Votes: 28 8.5%

  • Enterprise and Voyager suck

    Votes: 13 3.9%

  • Enterprise, Voyager and Deep Space Nine suck

    Votes: 19 5.8%

  • The Original Series and TOS Movies are the only good Star Trek

    Votes: 38 11.5%

  • Star Trek sucks, geek boy

    Votes: 11 3.3%

  • Star Trek: Carrots

    Votes: 31 9.4%
  • Total voters
    330
#121
There was one episode where Janeway was considered "an immoral thug and a war criminal", but on another planet. The Doctors backup was lost, and when it was restored, all hell broke loose. Turned out she wasn't that way at all, but their media warped the facts to create and maintain a race/class war. Later, history recorded the Doctor's recollections as fact, and repaired the issue.
 
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#122
Ayce said:
There was one episode where Janeway was considered "an immoral thug and a war criminal", but on another planet. The Doctors backup was lost, and when it was restored, all hell broke loose. Turned out she wasn't that way at all, but their media warped the facts to create and maintain a race/class war. Later, history recorded the Doctor's recollections as fact, and repaired the issue.
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A great episode. But I call her a criminal based on a bunch of actions she took over seven years....and one specific action a future version of her took. I haven't watched Voyager in a while though.
 
#123
Well, that was ONE episode, yes. Others have her doing morally questionable things for what she felt was the best thing at the time for the crew.
Just remember episode one, where Torres questioned Chakotay about who Janeway thought she was. His reply? "She's the Captain"
 
#124
Gorn said:
Has anyone but me ever seen The Animated Series? It really is very good. Cheesy, but good.
One of the guys who worked on it was color blind and to him, pink appeared as grey. So the Klingons had pink uniforms:
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LOL!! For some reason that thought cracks me up.... the idea of a colorblind colorist...... Sort of like a tone deaf soundman.

ShoeManiac said:
I've actually been watching Enterprise thanks to Amazon Prime's streaming video service. Truth be told? It's not that bad. The show seems to have been all about laying the groundwork for a lot of what's to come in The Original Series and beyond. There's no Federation yet. The technology that is taken for granted in later series is still in it's infancy. And we're essentially seeing the first steps of humanity into a larger interstellar community.
I'm finding it a little bit interesting at least.
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Yeah I started doing that too.... I just couldn't get into it when it aired. One annoying thing about all the Treks.. even Enterprise is the notion that all aliens look humanoid with various bumps, ridges and skin tones ..... and the idea that you can get in an alien ship sight unseen and "figure out" the controls.... And also that everything was so clean.....

Gorn said:
The TNG movies all stunk. Generations was boring and the others ignored seven years of character development. Boo.
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I didn't think they all sucked... But none of them really grabbed me... Maybe it was because TNG was on for so long and by the time the time came out I just expected more.

ShoeManiac said:
As far as the movies go? The trilogy of Star Trek 2, 3 and 4 are pretty strong. It's a good ongoing story arc with some actual character development, a genuine level of jeopardy for the characters, as well as some humor that wasn't 60's style camp or Shatner essentially winking at the camera. As for other TOS based movies? I kind of like Undiscovered Country. I personally think that the TOS movies should've wrapped up then and there, rather than trying to bridge over to TNG movies with Generations.

As for the TNG movies? Count me in the camp that likes First Contact as well. Alice Krieg was great as the Borg Queen. And James Cromwell was equally good as Zephraim Cochrane.
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I agree with everything you said.... But I actually thought TUC was great.... That scene where Kirk jumps in to save the ambassador and goes "Kirk ... Enterprise!!" was classic.

mellowinman said:
I'll just never get back on the "Shatner Can't Act" boat again. In watching the first season, I was surprised how often he did the subtle nuances he wasn't known for, and in some of the films, as well. I think Shatner gets a bad rap for a few mistakes he made when he had a poor script, or bad direction.
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Yeah.. The episode that did it for me was the one where he had his body stolen by Janice Lester.... I thing In have seen every TOS episode at least 10-15 times over the years...

stratovani said:
Boy, I swear I must be the only one here who actually likes 'Enterprise'! Set about 80 years after Zephram Cochrane's first warp flight, and 100 years before Captain Kirk's NCC-1701, it's all about humanity's first foray into deep space. It's interesting to watch how it develops in the first two seasons, with the character development, the technical innovations they were forced to come up with, and the new alien species they met along the way. Captain Archer is the prototype of the classic Star Trek captain, and T'Pol is pretty easy on the eyes! Of course like all the other Star Treks there were some clunkers along the way, and I could have lived without the long Xindi arc, but all in all I thought it was a good show. I'm rewatching it now on Netflix, still on Season 1.
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Me too.. I think one reason I had a hard time getting into it was that I did not see it from the beginning.
 
#125
Gorn said:
It's hard to say what went wrong with Enterprise. I think the cast did a great job. The writing was good. The Xindi arc taking up the entire third season probably did it.

I'm a little annoyed that the new show is also gonna be pre-Kirk like Enterprise was. I think extreme Star Trek fans like myself would've preferred it to take place in "modern" Star Trek times which would be after the events of Nemesis.
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The Xindi arc pretty much did me in as a viewer of Enterprise. I sorta came back to it after that was resolved, but not enough to hold my interest. One of these days I'll have to rewatch the series. I enjoyed the first season at least.

I haven't kept up with the details of the new ST series, but I hope they take a look at what went wrong with Enterprise and not make the same mistakes.
 
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Just checked the episode synopsis.
"Nightmare at 20,00 Feet"
While traveling by airliner, Bob Wilson (Shat) thinks he sees a gremlin on the wing. Bob tries to alert his wife and the flight crew to the gremlin's presence, but every time someone else looks out of the window, the gremlin leaps out of view, so Bob's claim seems outlandish. Bob himself admits the oddity of the gremlin avoiding everyone else's sight but not his. His credibility is further marred because this is his first flight since his nervous breakdown six months earlier, which also occurred on an aircraft. Bob realizes that his wife is starting to think he needs to go back to the sanitarium, but his bigger concern is that the gremlin is tinkering with the wiring under one of the engine cowlings, with the likely end being the aircraft crashing.
The crew gives Bob a sedative to keep him from being a disturbance. Bob obediently downs it with water but does not swallow, and secretly spits it out. He then steals a sleeping police officer's revolver, straps himself in to avoid being blown out of the aircraft, and opens the emergency exit door to shoot the gremlin. Once the airliner has landed, everyone believes that he has gone insane. As Bob is whisked away in a straitjacket, he tells his wife that he is alone in his knowledge of what happened during the flight. However, the final shot reveals conspicuous damage to the aircraft's wing, caused by the gremlin.

This was spoofed in the Simpsons' Treehouse of Horror bit, "Terror at 5 1/2 Feet"

The other one was "Nick of Time"
 
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Killed_by_Death said:
Wasn't it just one weird looking ape-like beast?

He's in another episode where he can't stop putting coins in the devil's head at their diner table, which he thinks is predicting the future.

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"Nightmare at 20k Feet" on the left & "Nick of Time" on the right
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The only full episodes I can find cut down the size of the screen--but watch it anyways if you like:
 
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