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The Star Treks

Of the Star Trek Series

  • Every Series ROCKS!

    Votes: 27 8.2%
  • Every Series has good and bad episodes

    Votes: 163 49.4%
  • Every Series has good and bad episodes except Enterprise, which sucks

    Votes: 28 8.5%
  • Enterprise and Voyager suck

    Votes: 13 3.9%
  • Enterprise, Voyager and Deep Space Nine suck

    Votes: 19 5.8%
  • The Original Series and TOS Movies are the only good Star Trek

    Votes: 38 11.5%
  • Star Trek sucks, geek boy

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Star Trek: Carrots

    Votes: 31 9.4%

  • Total voters
    330
Huge fan of TOS.
Most of the "Next Gen." episodes I've seen are O.K.
Working my way through "Enterprise" right now (just started season 4), and with the exception of a few clunker episodes, I really like it.
Will probably try "Voyager" next, while the series that I'm least interested in is "DS-9".
 
It sure is. I had no idea he had those issues with his son.
Yeah he apparently almost stayed in character on non shooting days which basically meant he was cold and distant, not actually pretending he was a Vulcan. And I had no idea he worked so much. He apparently took whatever job he could and worked all the time, which is nice for providing for your family but isn't ideal for quality time with your family. Regardless I still got the impression he was a great man who was beloved by everyone around him. I cried when he passed. I'll cry when the Shat passes. Celebrity deaths generally mean nothing to me but these men changed my life. They played a big role in who I am. I'm gonna be a mess when Sir Patrick Stewart dies.
 
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original series + 1
TNG + 1
DS9 was crap.
Enterprise without Jolene Blalock would be un watchable. The theme song was horrid.
The only good thing about Voyager was Jeri Ryan. How many times did they recycle the whole time paradox thing? Seemed like an infinite loop.
 
TOS rocks. Duh.

TAS I haven't watched yet.

TNG rocks, and it got better with every season.

DS9 is an awesome TV series, not just a ST or SF one. It also got better and better as it progressed. (Bajoran religion stuff was often boring tho'.) If you watched it end to end and didn't like it, to each our own. If you only saw some season 1 episodes and decided it sucked 'cause they're stuck in a space station, you're wrong and you're missing out.

VOY mostly sucks. Should have been even grittier than DS9 to make sense, but they went for tried and foolish for the most part. I disliked most of the regulars. Picardo is excellent. Tim Russ was great - maybe not Oscar material, but he did a very good job with portraying the first long-run full-Vulcan in the franchise. Ryan, minus some awkward moments, was way better than Lien (speaking of whom, what's with the lisp?!? Do folks all talk like her wherever she hails from?). Ethan Phillips proved himself much less annoying than his Neelix character. Robert Beltran/Chakotay was OK. Roxann Dawson/B'Elanna Torres was a little underdimentional acting-wise, but also underutilised, what with her pregnancy or some other reason. I fiercely loathed Robert Duncan McNeill and Garrett Wang, their bridge officer characters and their singsong delivery: high-low, aye captain, on screen, shields up. Ugh. Finally, Mulgrew and her character, whoever wrote it the way it was. On a bad day, and there were scores of them, she deserved nothing less than being stranded with angry natives, or at least one or two keelhauls with an old spacesuit on; on an average one, I'd have welcomed seeing her receive a (half-)Klingon headbutt each time she went into hissy murmur, preachy mode...

ENT is good. There, I said it. Season 2 was a little dull. IMO the Xindi arc is best consumed in a binge-watch, as I did (enjoyed it a lot). Season 4 is solid. Oh, and as for the theme song, the verse is even good compared to the chorus, which blows.

On to movies. Liked all, except The Final Frontier (obviously), Generations, Insurrection (basically a double-length bad TNG episode) and Nemesis.


Speaking of unrelated sci-fi movies, the Abrams Trek trilogy is crap.
 
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TOS rocks. Duh.

TAS I haven't watched yet.

TNG rocks, and it got better with every season.

DS9 is an awesome TV series, not just a ST or SF one. It also got better and better as it progressed. (Bajoran religion stuff was often boring tho'.) If you watched it end to end and didn't like it, to each our own. If you only saw some season 1 episodes and decided it sucked 'cause they're stuck in a space station, you're wrong and you're missing out.

VOY mostly sucks. Should have been even grittier than DS9 to make sense, but they went for tried and foolish for the most part. I disliked most of the regulars. Picardo is excellent. Tim Russ was great - maybe not Oscar material, but he did a very good job with portraying the first long-run full-Vulcan in the franchise. Ryan, minus some awkward moments, was way better than Lien (speaking of whom, what's with the lisp?!? Do folks all talk like her wherever she hails from?). Ethan Phillips proved himself much less annoying than his Neelix character. Robert Beltran/Chakotay was OK. Roxann Dawson/B'Elanna Torres was a little underdimentional acting-wise, but also underutilised, what with her pregnancy or some other reason. I fiercely loathed Robert Duncan McNeill and Garrett Wang, their bridge officer characters and their singsong delivery: high-low, aye captain, on screen, shields up. Ugh. Finally, Mulgrew and her character, whoever wrote it the way it was. On a bad day, and there were scores of them, she deserved nothing less than being stranded with angry natives, or at least one or two keelhauls with an old spacesuit on; on an average one, I'd have welcomed seeing her receive a (half-)Klingon headbutt each time she went into hissy murmur, preachy mode...

ENT is good. There, I said it. Season 2 was a little dull. IMO the Xindi arc is best consumed in a binge-watch, as I did (enjoyed it a lot). Season 4 is solid. Oh, and as for the theme song, the verse is even good compared to the chorus, which blows.

On to movies. Liked all, except The Final Frontier (obviously), Generations, Insurrection (basically a double-length bad TNG episode) and Nemesis.


Speaking of unrelated sci-fi movies, the Abrams Trek trilogy is crap.
I agree with everything you said here except the last paragraph about the movies, but your character comments are dead on.

I didn't hate Paris but I didn't like him much either. Harry was annoying. He started off whining and young and then was meant to portrayed as progressing into a solid mature officer but he was always too chipper. In that episode where they made it almost all the way back with the quantum slipstream drive, his portrayal of future angry Harry was laughable.
 
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Voyager was basically Gilligans Island in space. Every week they tried to get off the island, and every week their efforts proved fruitless.

Come to think of it, House was basically Gilligans Island in a hospital....

Sherwood Schwartz was way ahead of the curve!

Unlike Gilligan's Island, they did get off the island(Delta quadrant) while the series was still televised.
It took 11 years after the show was canceled and a made-for-TV movie to rescue Gilligan and the Minnow passengers.
 
Unlike Gilligan's Island, they did get off the island(Delta quadrant) while the series was still televised.
It took 11 years after the show was canceled and a made-for-TV movie to rescue Gilligan and the Minnow passengers.
And they cheated. The criminal and disgrace to the federation Katherine Janeway broke the temporal prime directive to get home. But at that point she broke the regular prime directive so many times she was desensitized.