The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[GR7G5TER]

Got the opportunity to buy an original and wondering if it is worth it

The SBVT was my fist introduction to Sushi Box FX some years ago.

It's a bloody good pedal! It had recently been discontinued when I got my mine.

It adds some real heft to your signal and sounds very good.

I felt it was lacking something at the time (can't remember as I've since moved the pedal on).
Given Nathan's recent release of the last few years I would expect the SBVTII to be significant improvement over the original.

 

[Rev_Slinky]

I have some questions about the SB More, I've tried to dive back a ways in the search history to find someone with some audio samples but the only ones I found the links broken. Has anyone swapped away from stock tubes in the more and what was the reason/outcome. does anyone have any video or basic audio clip of the More?
thanks

I can't direct you to any clips, nor have I tried swapping tubes in the MORE, but I will say that it does exactly what it says it's going to do: it gives you more. Even when running into a tube amp, I notice more warmth, presence, and richness to the tone.

 

[DaMoose87]

I can't direct you to any clips, nor have I tried swapping tubes in the MORE, but I will say that it does exactly what it says it's going to do: it gives you more. Even when running into a tube amp, I notice more warmth, presence, and richness to the tone.

Thanks I appreciate the information, when you use the pedal do you use it as an always on pedal or do you use it as more of like a Tube version of a Boost Pedal or to drive something else

 

[Rev_Slinky]

Thanks I appreciate the information, when you use the pedal do you use it as an always on pedal or do you use it as more of like a Tube version of a Boost Pedal or to drive something else

I use it as an always-on tone sweetener. I got it originally to run in front of a solid- state amp, but it adds a little something to every amp I've tried it with. In that way, it almost reminds me of a good, warm compressor that just fattens-up the tone a bit.

 

[LSM07]

Try running the MORE in front of a distortion pedal. You'll probably be pleasantly surprised.

 

[mikeswals]

I have a new More with the upside down mounted tubes, I tried swapping 3 different tubes into the right side socket (I'm Assuming that was the input side), it didn't sound good....it got very compressed and started sounding squishy. So I simply put the original tube back in.
I wasn't looking for any drive or dist, was trying for more bite like what I got from my Wesinghouse I had before the More, my Finally also has that same bite.
Anyways, just been gigging it, and on stage in the band mix the notes just sound thicker and fuller out my class D amp.

 

[BassJuju]

I got my Grand Slampegg Friday and tested a few things on Saturday. I really started to dig in yesterday and today. A Venus Z is currently on my board and I like it a lot. But… After some tweaking, I found the tone I hear in my head when I hear bass. I’ve really only found that a few times before. The Grand Slampegg is just wonderful.

The real surprise for me is the HPF. Trying to scrape the mud off of a low B flat wound has always been challenging. In this case… nay nay! When I engaged the HPF, I did add just a tad more bass, but it quickly balanced out the tone. Everything just growled wonderfully and had amazing presence.

Another thing I noticed is that subtle hand changes, ghost notes, and palm mute were just more. Like the instrument suddenly became more responsive to my technique. I’m a fan.

I have a rehearsal tomorrow that leads up to a major performance and I am anxious to see how this translates to the room. I’m pretty sure I’m gonna love it…

Grand Slampegg, Nathan.

 

[dmk]

Great news! My Grand Slampegg is scheduled to arrive 4 days.

 

[lomo]

The real surprise for me is the HPF. Trying to scrape the mud off of a low B flat wound has always been challenging. In this case… nay nay! When I engaged the HPF, I did add just a tad more bass, but it quickly balanced out the tone. Everything just growled wonderfully and had amazing presence.

It's amazing how beneficial an HPF can be. It's a true ear opener. If you don't have a variable HPF in your chain, I suggest you try one, unless the one on your G-Slampegg is always on. They are cheap, small and allow you to be gloriously reckless with the bass knob and get great results.

 

[GR7G5TER]

It's amazing how beneficial an HPF can be. It's a true ear opener. If you don't have a variable HPF in your chain, I suggest you try one, unless the one on your G-Slampegg is always on. They are cheap, small and allow you to be gloriously reckless with the bass knob and get great results.

I concur, using an HPF is an "ear" opener for sure. I have a thumpinator always on at the end of my signal chain.

It is set quite low so I do sometimes dial up the HPF in the stomp when I want a more bass sound.

I love the fact that there are included in some of Nathan's pedals as it saves having a separate unit.

 

[andare]

Isn't 90hz a bit too high for bass?

 

[jmmyoh]

Isn't 90hz a bit too high for bass?

Nope.

 

[havnjero]

its WAY too high. but the Noble DI did it so now its a good idea, or something.
I need everything over 60, and nothing under. I wish this requirement could be considered by someone, someday, post eq and pre-di.

 

[RobD_BritBass]

Isn't 90hz a bit too high for bass?

If it was a really steep slope maybe, but with the slope this has it seems to be an ideal point so that by the time you're playing a low B it's cleaning it up a bit, and everything that's rumble-y below that is starting to disappear

 

[sloppy_phil]

Isn't 90hz a bit too high for bass?

Not everyone feels that way. But, I don't particularly like it, personally.

 

[BassJuju]

It wasn't that I never used or heard a HPF before, I was just surprised about how good this one is. I tried it on my Venus Z and didnt really dig it. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't the same in the end. The GS seems just right.

 

[Averell]

Isn't 90hz a bit too high for bass?

If you dial your EQ accordingly, no. The HPF is only a first order filter, so only 6 dB/octave. That's not much ! So, you have -3 dB at 90 Hz, and you have -9 db at 45 Hz. It's not that much. Now, with the Grand Slampegg or the Nobelium, you may also dial a bass boost. You will have a nice bass boost around 70 / 100 Hz, where the bass niceness is, but below that the HPF will cut the mudiness...

To say that with other words : the first order HPF will transform a shelf EQ into a bell EQ. Bass boost around 100 Hz is nice, below that, it's mud.

 

[Tassieviking]

So a question for you guys N girls who have variable HPF in your chain, what frequency do you normally set it for ?
I am about to build my Nobelium soon and I might make it a 2 frequency HPF, but I have no idea what to aim for.
I don't know if this should be in the other Sushi thread C2CE or not but since you guys started talking about it I just had to ask here.
Thanks
Mick

 

[Averell]

I have a Nobelium, and no issue. Only with the Grand Slampegg. I guess it’s a tube issue. But that’s not annoying enough to investigate more, as I don’t gig with it.

A quick followup. I had issues with my Grand Slampegg : it made some noises. I guess that the tube was microphonic, as I could ear thumps in the amp when I tocked the pedal. Today I changed the Sovtek 6SL7 with an JJ 6SL7. It was a bit difficult because the tube is bigger, but it fits. Now the GS is dead silent, and I guess the sound is a bit more defined. So far I'm pretty happy with the change...

 

[Tassieviking]

Isn't 90hz a bit too high for bass?

It's amazing how many bass cabs can't do frequencies much lower then that anyway, we hear the harmonics and the brain tells us it originated lower.