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the thread that should not be
- Thread starter Killed_by_Death
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The people I know and socialize with would say Harris. The people I know and socialize with are of all sorts of tastes and backgrounds. Motorhead and Lemmy just aren't and never were a big deal to the people I've come in contact with. I've never met a Motorhead fanatic or even a semi Motorhead fanatic. I've met and know plenty of Maiden and Harris fanatics and fans.
The people who know and socialize with Harris and the late Lemmy, I don't know. My guess would be Lemmy for the lifestyle and Harris for the ability.
It struck me as trolling.
And music isn't a competition.
Steve Harris is revered for his songwriting and the hand endurance required to "gallop" like he does.
Lemmy was revered for living and embodying the music he loved for over 45 years.
Again, what is gained by trying to turn it into an "either/or" question?
They are both more than worthy of our admiration, for different reasons.
Explain, please, how one gauges the "broader sense" of anything by (unscientifically) surveying bass players.
I guess I was hoping that you might consider things like "why am I asking the question that I'm asking" before posting things like this.
Were you considering changing your profile pic, and wanted TB consensus before doing so?
I'm reminded of something that Mark Twain said about being beat with experience...
Dude!?!? I would TOTALLY fight you for saying that.
Blasphemy!
Co-signed.
Come on. Ginger left nothing to the imagination, but you know sweet, demure little MA could show you some special delights when she got you up into the hayloft.
Harris is a rabid West Ham United supporter; Lemmy didn't care at all for football. So I'll revere Harris and get back to my job. Done and done.
wintremute
mediocrity at its finest
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This is really starting to seem like a "my favorite is more revered than your favorite so I win" kinda vibe.
Let's say the votes clearly show that Lemmy is/was more revered, then what?
Let's say the votes clearly show that Harris is/was more revered, then what?
I shoulda voted for carrots.
Let's say the votes clearly show that Lemmy is/was more revered, then what?
Let's say the votes clearly show that Harris is/was more revered, then what?
I shoulda voted for carrots.
wintremute
mediocrity at its finest
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I think that, to truly get to the heart of the matter, this poll should be asked of McDonald's managers.
Maybe if Harris had died after drinking himself to death (yeah cancer, I know, and alcohol is one of the leading causes of cancer...).
Maybe if Harris had collected Nazi memorabilia but stated he didn't actually support Nazi ideals (Lemmy was usually seen wearing an iron cross, thank you Rommel, I guess)
Maybe if Harris worked more on his image and less on his musicality...
...He'd be more revered than Lemmy.
But he didn't do any of those things.
So I guess let's revere Lemmy!
Maybe if Harris had collected Nazi memorabilia but stated he didn't actually support Nazi ideals (Lemmy was usually seen wearing an iron cross, thank you Rommel, I guess)
Maybe if Harris worked more on his image and less on his musicality...
...He'd be more revered than Lemmy.
But he didn't do any of those things.
So I guess let's revere Lemmy!
Congratulations, you just won the Internet.
Wait, I just remembered that someone revered Lemmy enough to film a documentary about him, while the Steve Harris documentary is languishing in Kickstarter!
Yes, woe betide the Millwall supporter caught with "The Number of the Beast" in his LP collection.
devnulljp
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OK my view on how others perceive the subject, since i have not run my own survey, i will go by what others have published. Is the data accurate, probably mostly. Is it skewed by the writers' personal view possibly. Is this data available elsewhere with similar results ?
do Numbers mean anything?
I think the fan base for both MUST have a large common membership.
Top Ten Most Recognizable Heavy Metal Bass Players — Metal Descent
Lemmy #10
Steve Harris #6
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The Top 10
Metallica 7 out of 100
Maiden 12 out of 100
Motorhead 1
Maiden 3 outta the top 10
Metallica 2
Motorhead 0
#1. Metallica - MASTER OF PUPPETS
Metallica are a band that opened many doors for a lot of fans/bands. They also opened many doors and provided a lot of listeners with a gateway to other more extreme bands. Sadly, much of their material post "the black album" hardly qualifies as heavy metal, but in their prime this band dealt out thrash metal that was second to none! Just listen to "Damage Inc." or "Battery" and even today they still stand up against what has come along.
#2. Iron Maiden - NUMBER OF THE BEAST
It is of no surprise that IRON MAIDEN comes close to the top spot. Culling fans from all areas of the metal spectrum, Iron Maiden, clearly are one of the true innovators in heavy metal. The intro to the track "Number of the Beast" has become one of the "prayers" of heavy metal with just about every fan knowing it word for word.
#3. Metallica - RIDE THE LIGHTNING
Arguably Metallica's heaviest album, the glorious RIDE THE LIGHTNING comes in at #3! This was the album that really started getting Metallica recognized around the world. It was followed up with MASTER OF PUPPETS which is really what put them on the map. However, the impact of RIDE THE LIGHTNING was definitely felt with "hits" like "Fade To Black", and "For Whom The Bell Tolls" to lesser hailed (but equally memorable) tracks like "Escape" and "Creeping Death" .
#4. AC/DC - BACK IN BLACK
Some of you youngsters will no doubt say "*** is a classic rock band doing in a heavy metal list?" It is true that AC/DC has become darlings of the classic rock radio circuit, also their recent performance with the Rolling Stones in Canada to several hundred thousand people only goes to show that their appeal extends well outside of the metal realm. All this aside, that does not mean that their contribution to heavy metal in the 70's and 80's should be ignored! BACK IN BLACK is not only one of the best heavy metal albums of all time, it is also one of the best selling "normal" albums of all time as well!!
#5. Slayer - REIGN IN BLOOD
REIGN IN BLOOD is hailed by many as the definitive Slayer album. Clearly most of us here at Metal-Rules.com agree, as the album comes in at #5. As I've said before, listening to this album is like a religious experience. "Angel of Death" is one of the best Slayer songs ever written. The whole album plays like the soundtrack to hell. Learn the sacred words of praise, hail SLAYERRRRRRR!!!
#6. Iron Maiden - POWERSLAVE
Iron Maiden's POWERSLAVE is a monster of an album. After the success of NUMBER OF THE BEAST and its follow up PIECE OF MIND, Iron Maiden was hard pressed to deliver an album that would match its predecessors. They would not disappoint as POWERSLAVE, with its instant classic tracks including "2 Minutes to Midnight" and the epic "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" would cement Iron Maiden at the forefront of the metal world and spawn the massive and seemingly never-ending World Slavery Tour.
#7. Iron Maiden - PIECE OF MIND
Maiden again? Yes, again...making for the third entry in our top 10! Many people consider this the pinnacle of Maidens career and with tracks like "The Trooper", "Still Life", "Die With Your Boots On" and "Flight of Icarus" it is hard to disagree. PIECE OF MIND turned 20 years old this year and forever will be a classic of the metal genre.
#8. Dio - HOLY DIVER
Ex-Rainbow, ex-Sabbath vocal god Ronnie James Dio comes in at #8. Pushing to his 60's, this old goat can still easily kick the ass of the majority of singers on the scene.
#9. Slayer - SEASONS IN THE ABYSS
SEASONS IN THE ABYSS is considered by some to be the last "classic" Slayer album. Songs like the evil title track and speed metal masterpieces like "Born of Fire" and "War Ensemble" have become fan favorites standing shoulder to shoulder alongside the band's past material.
#10. Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Rounding out the top 10 is SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE, the quintessential Priest album in the eyes of many. Fronted by the �metal god� Rob Halford, Priest have been one of the defining bands of the metal movement. �You�ve Got Another Thing Coming� helped to create a new generation of metalheads and showed to the world that Metal Rules!!
do Numbers mean anything?
I think the fan base for both MUST have a large common membership.
Top Ten Most Recognizable Heavy Metal Bass Players — Metal Descent
Lemmy #10
Steve Harris #6
Invalid Link Removed
The Top 10
Metallica 7 out of 100
Maiden 12 out of 100
Motorhead 1
Maiden 3 outta the top 10
Metallica 2
Motorhead 0
#1. Metallica - MASTER OF PUPPETS
Metallica are a band that opened many doors for a lot of fans/bands. They also opened many doors and provided a lot of listeners with a gateway to other more extreme bands. Sadly, much of their material post "the black album" hardly qualifies as heavy metal, but in their prime this band dealt out thrash metal that was second to none! Just listen to "Damage Inc." or "Battery" and even today they still stand up against what has come along.
#2. Iron Maiden - NUMBER OF THE BEAST
It is of no surprise that IRON MAIDEN comes close to the top spot. Culling fans from all areas of the metal spectrum, Iron Maiden, clearly are one of the true innovators in heavy metal. The intro to the track "Number of the Beast" has become one of the "prayers" of heavy metal with just about every fan knowing it word for word.
#3. Metallica - RIDE THE LIGHTNING
Arguably Metallica's heaviest album, the glorious RIDE THE LIGHTNING comes in at #3! This was the album that really started getting Metallica recognized around the world. It was followed up with MASTER OF PUPPETS which is really what put them on the map. However, the impact of RIDE THE LIGHTNING was definitely felt with "hits" like "Fade To Black", and "For Whom The Bell Tolls" to lesser hailed (but equally memorable) tracks like "Escape" and "Creeping Death" .
#4. AC/DC - BACK IN BLACK
Some of you youngsters will no doubt say "*** is a classic rock band doing in a heavy metal list?" It is true that AC/DC has become darlings of the classic rock radio circuit, also their recent performance with the Rolling Stones in Canada to several hundred thousand people only goes to show that their appeal extends well outside of the metal realm. All this aside, that does not mean that their contribution to heavy metal in the 70's and 80's should be ignored! BACK IN BLACK is not only one of the best heavy metal albums of all time, it is also one of the best selling "normal" albums of all time as well!!
#5. Slayer - REIGN IN BLOOD
REIGN IN BLOOD is hailed by many as the definitive Slayer album. Clearly most of us here at Metal-Rules.com agree, as the album comes in at #5. As I've said before, listening to this album is like a religious experience. "Angel of Death" is one of the best Slayer songs ever written. The whole album plays like the soundtrack to hell. Learn the sacred words of praise, hail SLAYERRRRRRR!!!
#6. Iron Maiden - POWERSLAVE
Iron Maiden's POWERSLAVE is a monster of an album. After the success of NUMBER OF THE BEAST and its follow up PIECE OF MIND, Iron Maiden was hard pressed to deliver an album that would match its predecessors. They would not disappoint as POWERSLAVE, with its instant classic tracks including "2 Minutes to Midnight" and the epic "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" would cement Iron Maiden at the forefront of the metal world and spawn the massive and seemingly never-ending World Slavery Tour.
#7. Iron Maiden - PIECE OF MIND
Maiden again? Yes, again...making for the third entry in our top 10! Many people consider this the pinnacle of Maidens career and with tracks like "The Trooper", "Still Life", "Die With Your Boots On" and "Flight of Icarus" it is hard to disagree. PIECE OF MIND turned 20 years old this year and forever will be a classic of the metal genre.
#8. Dio - HOLY DIVER
Ex-Rainbow, ex-Sabbath vocal god Ronnie James Dio comes in at #8. Pushing to his 60's, this old goat can still easily kick the ass of the majority of singers on the scene.
#9. Slayer - SEASONS IN THE ABYSS
SEASONS IN THE ABYSS is considered by some to be the last "classic" Slayer album. Songs like the evil title track and speed metal masterpieces like "Born of Fire" and "War Ensemble" have become fan favorites standing shoulder to shoulder alongside the band's past material.
#10. Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Rounding out the top 10 is SCREAMING FOR VENGEANCE, the quintessential Priest album in the eyes of many. Fronted by the �metal god� Rob Halford, Priest have been one of the defining bands of the metal movement. �You�ve Got Another Thing Coming� helped to create a new generation of metalheads and showed to the world that Metal Rules!!
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Interesting - reading it I do recall some of these things coming up at the time.Yes, she wasn't a nice person ..Link Removed
Unlike Lemmy, who was awesome.
Required reading for TB and this thread should be the book
Bull.... And Philosophy
(NSFW title edit; Google away for big-boy words).
The book is a further analysis of "On Bull..." (which can also be googled for big-boy words).
Bull.... And Philosophy
(NSFW title edit; Google away for big-boy words).
The book is a further analysis of "On Bull..." (which can also be googled for big-boy words).
I strongly disagree with the statements being made here for Motörhead being responsible or for being an influence on Maiden in anyway. They are as musically opposed as you can be and were far more contemporary than people here realize. Harris's influences were UFO first and foremost, Thin Lizzy, Jethro Tull, Genesis, and so on. I'm not saying he didn't like them, and I have no idea if he did or not, but I don't hear it.
As to the poll and my take on it's meaning, I believe Lemmy is more revered by the public at large and is more of a cultural icon.
As to the poll and my take on it's meaning, I believe Lemmy is more revered by the public at large and is more of a cultural icon.
Although, not a McD's manager, I asked this question of my non-bass playing co-worker (however, he does own a Soprano Ukulele). He completely avoided mentioning both Harris and Lemmy and proceeded to rave about how great Led Zeppelin is and how much of an influence Jimi Hendrix was on him. After he dodged the question completely (not mentioning Maiden nor MH), I have to vote Carrots.
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That co-worker was the best "non-bass general populace" source I could think of, with a non-bias view.
